The perfect tie knot

I Have to wear a tie every day at the new gig which is fine if I can get the knot right.

On day's like today though, I had the perfect windsor knot for about 10 minutes, before the part that crosses over in the front started slipping. I guess it doesn't like me very much.

I've tried everything. Doing different varieties of knots, re-tying the tie, using thicker ties, thinner ties, silky ties, ugly ties (okay I don't own any ugly ties) nothing works!

I cannot keep the knot completely tight throughout the day. I can get the tie as tight as can be around my neck, to the point where I can barely breathe. It will stay that way the whole day, but the not, it slips.

Anyone know what the heck I'm doing wrong?

I realize this is possibly the worst place to come for tie advice since I worked in the journalism business for 2+ years and never wore a tie. Dammit.

 

On days like today, where I am wearing a spread collar, I have to wear a windsor not. If I had a point collar or something I'd go with a half-windsor or four-in-hand. Regardless of the type of knot it always slips. Again, I'm not talking about it coming loose from my neck. I'm talking about the front part of the tie, which is supposed to cover the garbled mess of the knot, slipping down about a quarter to a half inch. It will not stay put. It's like the not itself coming loose, but it is still staying on my neck.

 

Agree with Ragu unless you want to look like Richard Nixon you should use half windsor. if tied correctly it's fine with Spread Collar

 

I also like a half-windsor. It's quicker, easier and has a little more casual feel. It doesn't look like you're trying too hard. The full Windsor can be especially difficult with wide and/or bullkier ties.

And I prefer a pinpoint collar with ties, although sometimes I'll wear a button-down. The spread collar is a bit too Tony Blair-European for me.

 

Used to be able to tie a mean half-windsor. Then I went something like 6 years without needing to tie a tie. Now I can't do it worth a damn. Sigh.

 

other problem with Windsor is if tie is not long enough it ends up half way up your shirt.

 

check youtube. they have videos to teach how to tie a tie.

 

Go with the four-in-hand knot.

 

Also true. Here's a combination big-knot, spread-collar disaster:

 

Good if you are pledging for fraternity