The Official Tim Raines Hall of Fame Support Thread

Let's be fair, Brock and Henderson each had 3,000 hits. I don't think Raines is quite at that level, but he's not far behind and definitely should be in.

 

Tim Raines is a .333 hitter with 3,400 career hits if only we factor in the absolute mathematical reality that a walk is worth .6 of a hit. And if the absolute mathematical reality is that a walk is .7 of a hit? Oh my goodness.

 

I love Posnanski, but it's people who think that way and would actually take the time to write an idiotic column like that that was one of the reasons I stopped liking baseball.

 

Why are you allowed to make posts like this, but when others do, you have a baby fit about it?

 

This is a direct comparison to the previous thead in which you told us what Olerud's true numbers should be. I assumed that if it was such a valuable tool that you defended it for six pages on the Olerud thread, you'd apply the same statistical tool here.

Also, there is precisely one person on this board with whom I have this personal conflict. It's you. What's your number?

 

One thing to remember on Brock because he does appear to be a poor choice because he hardly walked and was not a great fielder. He set the all-time stolen base record, which had been held for about 90 years by Billy Hamilton. That is the kind of thing that voters take note of.

That being said Raines should be in the Hall, but it is not a travesty that he is not in already.

 

In the era of the stolen base, Rickey Henderson and Tim Raines were the defining base stealers that didn't suck at most everything else (I'm looking at you, Omar Moreno and Vince Coleman).

 

Raines should be in easy. He was better than Brock.

 

Any other half-ass possibility you care to start a HOF thread on? Jumpin Jeebus...

 

Raines always has had my vote. Clearly not enough, and I don't get my peers in this case at all.

 

I do think most of the people caught into the 1985 Pittsburgh Drug Trials have been seen in a negative light, even 25 years later.

Still wish there was a 30 for 30 on this. It is quite a story.

 

Really? Weren't Molitor & Hernandez involved? They don't seem to have payed a PR price.