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The cycle: Am I alone in this opinion?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by mpcincal, Jun 30, 2007.

  1. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    Here is why a no-hitter is hard to ignore. The cycle has no comparable way of constantly reminding 50,000 fans what's going on:

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  2. Del_B_Vista

    Del_B_Vista Active Member

    The comparisons of no-hitters to cycles misses one point: each game has two players with a chance to throw a no-hitter and 18 with a chance to hit the cycle.
     
  3. CentralIllinoisan

    CentralIllinoisan Active Member

    Well said.

    So, each season ... there are 4,860 opportunities for a pitcher or team to have a no-hitter. But there are 43,740 positions in the batting order each season.

    That makes hitting for the cycle a much more rare feat ... but more rare does not equal more difficult.
     
  4. buckweaver

    buckweaver Active Member

    Actually, because there are so many more opportunities, that's exactly why a cycle is more difficult. A no-hitter happens much more often, percentage-wise.
     
  5. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    Well, pretty much it does equal more difficult, when talking about performance (as opposed to random acts of God).

    It's more rare to hit all 6 numbers on a lotto ticket than it is to hit 5.

    It's also more difficult.

    It's more rare to throw a perfect game than a regular no-hitter.

    It's also more difficult.

    Same principle. You would be hard pressed to find something that is easier to do . . . but is also more rare.
     
  6. Mayfly

    Mayfly Active Member

    Hitting for the cycle involves the batter locating the exact spots in the outfield to place the ball. A single is easy enough, just put it up the middle. The double is harder, but there are many of those in a game, you can put it into the gap or down the line. For a player that is not a speedster, the triple is the hardest, and the ball is needed to be put deep into a gap, rarely triples go down the line. Home run is a home run.
     
  7. CentralIllinoisan

    CentralIllinoisan Active Member

    I guess what I mean is, as an athletic achievement, I see no-hitters as more laudable, despite them being less rare than hitting for the cycle.

    For instance, say a golfer has nine birdies on the front and nine bogeys on the back, for an even-par round. While that split may not happen very often (if ever), as a whole, any normal under-par round would be a better athletic achievement. (Although nine straight birdies is pretty chalk).

    Same goes with a baseball player with four hits that are not even split as 1B, 2B, 3B and HR. Two doubles, a triple and homer, for instance, are better athletic achievements.

    The cycle seems like more of a statistical anomaly than anything. Which is, of course, OK to point out and celebrate. I just see no-hitters as more of an achievement. Guess it's subjective.
     
  8. Mayfly

    Mayfly Active Member

    No-hitters usually end up with the pitcher getting a win. Of course there a few cases of a pitcher throwing a no-hitter and his team losing the game. That is just plain bad luck.

    But batters have had cycles in losing efforts (Aubrey Huff) and it gets overshadowed.
     
  9. Jack_Kerouac

    Jack_Kerouac Member


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  10. CentralIllinoisan

    CentralIllinoisan Active Member

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  11. Simon_Cowbell

    Simon_Cowbell Active Member

    I don't consider it a great feat when guys regularly exceed it during the season with other 10+ total base games.

    It's as much a coincidence as a feat. Don't get me wrong, 10 TB is a hell of a day, but 11 is better. Every day of the week.
     
  12. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Liberals catch and conservatives pitch, not that there's anything wrong with that.
     
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