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Terrorist executed

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by cranberry, Oct 24, 2006.

  1. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    LUCASVILLE, Ohio (AP) - Ohio executed a religious cult leader Tuesday for murdering a family of five followers who were taken one at a time to a barn, bound and shot to death. The youngest was a girl just 7 years old.

    Jeffrey Lundgren, 56, died by injection at the Southern Ohio Correctional Facility. "I profess my love for God, my family, for my children, for Kathy (his wife). I am because you are," Lundgren said in his final statement.

    The evidence against him in the deaths of the Avery family — Dennis, 49, Cheryl, 46, Trina, 15, Rebecca, 13, and 7-year-old Karen — was compelling.

    Upset by what he saw as a lack of faith, Lundgren arranged a dinner hosted by cult members. Afterward, he and his followers led the family members one by one — the father first, young Karen last — to their deaths while the others unknowingly cleaned up after dinner.

    Lundgren shot each victim two or three times while a running chain saw muffled the sound of the gunfire.

    Lundgren argued at his trial in 1990 that he was prophet of God and therefore not deserving of the death penalty.

    "It's not a figment of my imagination that I can in fact talk to God, that I can hear his voice," he had told the jurors. "I am a prophet of God. I am even more than a prophet."

    Lundgren formed the cult with about 20 members in the northeast Ohio town of Kirtland after he was dismissed in 1987 as a lay minister of the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, an offshoot of the Mormon church.

    He said God commanded him, through interpretation of Scriptures, to kill the Avery family, who had moved from Missouri in 1987 to follow his teachings.

    Lundgren's attorneys had tried to put off the execution, arguing that he should be allowed to join a lawsuit challenging Ohio's use of lethal injection as cruel and unusual punishment. They said his execution had more of a chance of being painful because he was diabetic and overweight at 275 pounds.

    Late Monday, the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Cincinnati issued an order allowing the execution to go forward. The
    U.S. Supreme Court refused a last-minute request to stop his execution Tuesday, and Gov. Bob Taft denied clemency.

    Thirteen cult members were charged in the case, including Lundgren's wife, Alice, now 55, and their son, Damon, now 35, both serving life prison terms.
  2. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    Now, c'mon, Cran, Christians don't kill in the name of God.
  3. hondo

    hondo Well-Known Member

    Glad they nailed this guy. Too bad they couldn't kill him twice.

  4. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    Glad to get a rational statement out of you, yes.
  5. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    This kind of story never makes me happy, Hondo. Just trying to point out that religious zealotry is dangerous no matter what the religion. It's not the religion that's dangerous -- Christian or Muslim or Jewish or whatever -- it's the zealotry that's dangerous.
  6. three_bags_full

    three_bags_full Well-Known Member

    Are Mormons considered Christians?
  7. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    Isn't the actual name of the Mormon church the Church of Jesus Christ and Latter Day Saints?

    I'd say that makes them Christians, but I guess I don't actually know.

    I always considered them Christians.
  8. sportschick

    sportschick Active Member

    Um, yea, Mormons are Christians. Who the fuck thinks they aren't?
  9. slappy4428

    slappy4428 Active Member

    Amen to that...
  10. three_bags_full

    three_bags_full Well-Known Member

    I thought some of their doctrine didn't jive with that of Christians.

    No one's saying they're not, butthead.

    I didn't know. Jesus. Fucking. Christ.
  11. joe

    joe Active Member

    Ask the "South Park" guys.
  12. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    Not me, sc. I think 3_B_F was honestly wondering.

    But yeah, doctrines of various protestant denominations vary, as well. They're still all Christians, so long as they believe Christ to be the son of God and all that.
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