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Terrelle Pryor tears himself away from college life

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by jr/shotglass, Jun 7, 2011.

  1. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    So, what's wrong with that?

    These are businesses, plain and simple. They already do this for coaches. Heck, coaches have contracts, yet, that doesn't seem to stop schools from poaching them from each other.

    This whole "purity of amateurism" crap is gone, except for the Ivy League, the military academies, perhaps the Patriot League in basketball, and D-III. For Division I, this is business.

    And in a business, people are allowed to choose where they work, and to negotiate for their compensation. In big-time college sports, the kids are only able to negotiate where they work. Their compensation has already been determined by the NCAA. And there isn't another place for them to seek better compensation.
     
  2. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    If the market bears that out, then the kids would go to college, they would have no leg to stand on in claiming they're not properly compensated for their services, and the debate would end. But let the market bear it out. I suspect any number of teams would rather spend $500,000 for 2-3 years to develop a high school quarterback than $25 million for the same quarterback after a college has developed him for 2-3 years.
     
  3. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    Except he wouldn't be ready to start at 20-21. Anyone who thinks he could is a fool.
     
  4. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    Here's the fallacy in that. The training that could be provided in an NFL internship won't begin to match the learning process afforded by playing in front of 70,000-plus for 26 to 52 games. I don't care if you have Charlie Weis, Pete Carroll and Jon Gruden in the kid's ear, it pales in comparison to being out there under the gun.
     
  5. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Just from a quick Google search I see that Drew Bledsoe, Matthew Stafford and Michael Vick were 21 when they started their first games, and they were decent as rookies. Others have been that young -- I know Alex Smith was 20 as a rookie but that didn't turn out so hot. Anyway, this is all just a theoretical argument, but I think a guy trained for two or three years in an NFL environment would be farther along than a guy the same age spending the same amount of time in college.
     
  6. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    A lot of people said things like that when Rashard Lewis went pro -- how could sitting on the bench in the NBA be better than playing in the pressure of the NCAA tournament.
     
  7. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    Basketball:football :: apples:eek:ranges
     
  8. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Maybe so. I would still like to see kids have the option though. Terrelle Pryor and Cam Newton had no business on a college campus, and everybody knows it.
     
  9. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    Some would say they have no business under center in an NFL game either.
     
  10. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member

    A primary "what's wrong with that?" is that it alows the Establishment schools to consistently dominate.

    Lowered scholarship limitations were designed to minimize that bullshit.

    Parity is good, to the extent possi8ble. NCAA football has sustained historical issues in this area, and most-anything that aids in presenting as many truly-competitive contests as possible is a positive.

    52-0 games suck, uniless you're scratching yourself while stuttering, "Goooo, ------- (insert name of Establishment SEC/Big XII powerhouse)" ., . .
     
  11. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Those athletes are already going to the Establishment schools. The MAC schools and the like get what's left already.
     
  12. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member

    Of course . . . but simply turning the dollar spigots to full blast would just result in even greater clustering of 2nd/3rd tier talent at all of the Enormous State U's.
     
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