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Straight Talkin' John

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by Fenian_Bastard, Oct 20, 2006.

  1. Columbo

    Columbo Active Member

    McCain has no shot of winning the White House.

    Only Bill Clinton could play both sides of his party's fence and come out alive.

    100,000 more troops? Is he FUCKING nuts?

    And the gay marriage clumsiness was unintentionally hilarious.

    Unelectable fruit bat.

  2. So Straight Talkin' John is really...a pol?
    Who knew?
    I may weep.
  3. PopeDirkBenedict

    PopeDirkBenedict Active Member

    McCain can do the Clinton thing, but for a different reason. Clinton was the guy who could flip-flop and get caught and he was so likeable that you didn't care. McCain has already been established as the straight talker by the national media and has built on that. It is part of the narrative and will be incredibly difficult to take down. Branding Kerry a flip-flopper was a perfect political strategy because his biggest weakness was that he was afflicted with Hamlet-esque indecision -- it only enhanced what most voters suspected to begin with. McCain doesn't need to run so far to the right that the Religious Right likes him -- he just needs them to not actively oppose him.

    McCain has done something rather extraordinary: he went through a national campaign where he lost, improved his stock politically and created no new doubts about his electability. The closest comparison would be Gary Hart, but Mondale created doubts about Hart in 84 (devoid of any actual ideas, vain, etc.) Bush won in SC with dirty tricks that made McCain seem sympathetic and after SC, McCain didn't stand a chance. The Bush machine was in high gear and McCain didn't have the $$$ or organization to compete. Writing McCain off as unelectable is downright foolish.
  4. McCain is admirable.
    He is not likable. Not if you cross him, and people in campaigns tend to cross each other. He's stiffnecked and arrogant and he does not suffer disagreement well. Clinton would eat him on toast, and Reagan would beat him before the campaign ever went south.
  5. PopeDirkBenedict

    PopeDirkBenedict Active Member

    When the Dems or Republicans find a Bill or Ronnie for 2008, gimme a call.
  6. D-Backs Hack

    D-Backs Hack Guest

    McCain absolutely embarrassed himself with his blame-Clinton bit following NK's nuclear test, only to have the intellgence reveal that it was a plutonium-based bomb.


    Not that the shit-for-brains Washington press corps is going to call McCain on it, or anything.

    It's in the media/Beltway script, as the the Pope pointed out: The Straight Talk Express is just that, and it must never be challenged. And it isn't limited to McCain.

    You fucking watch: The 2008 election will be between the straight-talking, genuine Republican (whoever he is) and the fake, inauthentic Democrat (whoever he or she is).

    Despite the events of 2001-08, and the circumstances that got us there thanks to the party in power, the Democrat will continually be put on the defensive regarding his or her honesty and integrity -- just like in 2004.
  7. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member

    He's already gone out of his way to suck off Falwell, which is very bad business.

    And I dread who the churchies will demand he put on the ticket, in return for the
    nomination . . . probably some junior fascist like Sam Brownshirt.
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