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Slate Interview: Its hard living on food stamps

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by poindexter, Nov 14, 2013.

  1. Bob Cook

    Bob Cook Active Member

    In a previous job, I was in the position to hire reporters for a trade publication. I should note we didn't pay for moving assistance, though we might give a bonus to help with costs.

    We did get out-of-town applicants. But generally we hired locally. There were two problems with out-of-town applicants. One was that to offset the risk of moving, they wanted a large pay raise, one we generally couldn't match. The other, and this was bigger, was that if they had property to sell, they just couldn't go. I had at least one reporter back out because she couldn't sell her condo, and if she didn't do that, she couldn't afford to move.
     
  2. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Which was my point. Papers are still existing (somewhat), they're just shedding jobs.
     
  3. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Until that factory closes. Then you're stuck in an area of the country away from your family and friends.
     
  4. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    I'm not sure what you expect.

    You don't sign a 45-year contract when you graduate college that guarantees you employment until age 67.

    The smartest, most resourceful, hardest working and most adaptable people likely will never be unemployed. Then again, maybe they will. Steve Jobs got the boot from the company he founded.

    It's not a company's responsibility to keep you employed. It's your responsibility to yourself to make sure you are needed and in demand.
     
  5. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member


    It's societies job to decide if we're happy with that or if we can try to shape things to be better for more people.
     
  6. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    On the surface this is true, and it is important to practice when you're young and single. But a transient population always following the "work" doesn't create much of a community fabric. It leads to a breakdown in families. What conservatives so often struggle to understand, or simply don't care to understand, is the amount of damage constant financial instability does to the family structure they claim to hold so dear. If the No. 1 priority is always the company's wants/needs/virtues, you either think human beings are cold, heartless robots or you're banking on them not getting mad enough to make companies pay sufficient attention. History tells us neither is a viable reality.
     
  7. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Yeah, that's definitely what YF was talking about ... [/bluefont]
     
  8. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    This, 100 percent. Anyone who relocates for a newspaper job had better be getting a contract of at least three years.

    In fact, I can see a day where newspaper jobs are similar to local TV news jobs. All the TV reporters work on two- or three-year contracts. Question is, are you willing to move 1,500 miles away for only three years of security?
     
  9. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    No such thing in print journalism. Period, full stop, end of sentence, end of paragraph, end of story.

    To have a union contract AT ALL in journalism is damn rare enough these days, and even if you have such a contract, it almost always allows the company to 'reduce the force' at its discretion, which means: last in, first out.
     
  10. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Nobody's talking about 45-year employment. We're talking about moving to where there are jobs. Yet, as most of us know, employment is very tenuous these days, and it's a risk to move somewhere else where there is little-to-no support system just for a job.
     
  11. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Just for a job?

    People have been moving to places that offer them the best chance of survival since there have been people. From the 1880s to the 1920s, Ellis Island was filled with people who left behind large extended families because of the promise (but not the guarantee) of work.

    As an aside, and not in response to your post necessarily, but related. ... I read a study that Business Insider wrote something about a few weeks ago, in which two researchers made a strong link between home ownership and unemployment.

    It's fairly common sensical. To summarize. ... In the U.S., doubling home ownership in a state correlates with more than a doubling of unemployment. Correlation doesn't necessarily imply causation, but the link is very strong.

    When you lock yourself into a location, and your goal is to be employed by someone else, you are locking yourself into the employment opportunities created by that location -- for better or for worse. That holds true whether it is Baron who doesn't think you should move "just" for a job or someone who bought a house and feels anchored to a place.

    Of course, we have been on a decades-long practice of our government promoting home ownership through tax policy and mortgage subsidies -- including right now. Our central bank has suppressed interest rates for decades now, not allowing them to rise to a market rate, and among the things it has really screwed up is the home market.

    One consequence might be higher unemployment.

    There is a lot of evidence that high home ownership erodes a country's industrial base. You can see it playing out throughout the world. Spain has a home ownership rate of 80 percent and an unemployment rate of more than 25. In Switzerland, though, where only 30 percent of people own their homes, unemployment is only 3 percent. Germany is also another country of renters rather than home owners, and has relatively low unemployment.

    It's another one of those things that seems to be pretty common sensical, but that I doubt a lot of people (including politicians who put their hand in everything) don't think about.
     
  12. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    It's a risk to make pretty much any life decision (marriage, children, join the military, buy a house, invest your savings, live in an earthquake/hurricane area).
     
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