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SI story about Lance Armstrong. Doesn't look pretty.

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by novelist_wannabe, Jan 18, 2011.

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  1. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    Hell - I don't care if he cheated, but you can't strip one guy and let another guy keep his titles just because he's a humanitarian. And if he broke the law - he broke the law. It still won't take away from his work to fight cancer.
     
    DanOregon, Jan 18, 2011
    #25
  2. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    Agreed.

    Most hardcore cyclists I know are convinced he doped. Yet most still wear the LiveStrong bracelets because of the fight against cancer.
     
    Inky_Wretch, Jan 18, 2011
    #26
  3. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    Sun rises in the east.
    The Pope is Catholic.

    Nonstory.
     
    MileHigh, Jan 18, 2011
    #27
  4. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Oh, I don't give a shit that he's a user. I do care that he has been so indignant whenever challenged, lied his ass off in numerous ways, used his lack of getting caught doping to foster a false PR message and has come out like a rabid dog, armed with threatening phone calls (personally), letters from squadrons of lawyers and a PR team, in order to smear anyone who dares to try to out him as a user.

    I think most sports are rife for with the stuff. It's cheating, regardless of how you feel, though, because the sports say they are not allowed. If you choose to use anyhow -- even if it is to keep up -- you have cheated. And if that isn't the case, a guy like Armstrong would have no reason not to stand up and just be honest -- say what he did, how he did it and let people decide for themselves whether it makes his accomplishments any less impressive.

    Instead he's lied over and over again and conducted himself like a bully against anyone who stood in his way.
     
    The Big Ragu, Jan 18, 2011
    #28
  5. cjericho

    cjericho Well-Known Member

    some get caught once. some get caught a few times. but when one of the greatest somehow doesn't ever get caught it's a but intriguing.
     
    cjericho, Jan 19, 2011
    #29
  6. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    But will this uncomfortable truth lead to the even more uncomfortable question of whether doping caused his cancer? I love what he has done with LiveStrong, and part of me hoped he'd never get found out just so people who had drawn so much hope for their own battles would be able to keep living that lie. I just wonder what the impact would be if he had to admit that yes he took drugs that mess with his reproductive system and yes that's exactly where the cancer was.
     
    LongTimeListener, Jan 19, 2011
    #30
  7. Shoeless Joe

    Shoeless Joe Active Member

    Again, while I don't doubt Lance doped, if I were on his legal team I'd be more than happy that they are using Landis in the prosecution. After stating that his name is Floyd Landis, that pretty much ends his credibility as a witness.
     
    Shoeless Joe, Jan 19, 2011
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  8. novelist_wannabe

    novelist_wannabe Well-Known Member

    Maybe. But then, the most credible person in relation to baseball's steroid problem is Jose Canseco.
     
    novelist_wannabe, Jan 19, 2011
    #32
  9. Shoeless Joe

    Shoeless Joe Active Member

    But I don't think Canseco every truly went to the mattresses denying his use and then went as far as to take money from people for his defense knowing he was guilty.

    Canseco's book - Juiced
    Landis' book - Positively False
     
    Shoeless Joe, Jan 19, 2011
    #33
  10. Jersey_Guy

    Jersey_Guy Active Member

    The thing that bothers me about Armstrong isn't that he cheated, but that he's such an insufferable, sanctimonious, hypocritical prick about it. He and Barry Bonds should be forced to live on a small tropical island together. Again, not because they cheated, but because they're both such assholes we should never be subjected to their presence again.
     
    Jersey_Guy, Jan 19, 2011
    #34
  11. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    The more I think about this the more I think that unless ESPN jumps on board with this story (which I doubt) that this will barely register with most of the public.

    SI is read by a fraction of the people it once was and Armstrong, while not off the radar, is nowhere close to being as prominent as he was when he was winning Tour after Tour.

    I hate to say it, but I don't think many people will care.
     
    Mizzougrad96, Jan 19, 2011
    #35
  12. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    I don't think many people cared when he was dominating the TdF. Jingoism fueled interest more than a love of cycling.
     
    Inky_Wretch, Jan 19, 2011
    #36
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