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Roger Federer & Tiger Woods: Head-to-Head

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by RokSki, Jul 22, 2007.

  1. jgmacg

    jgmacg Guest

    For the more complicated version of this piece, which might actually compare apples to apples, where does Federer stand against the greatest in his own sport?

    Tiger's chase is interesting only insofar as it leads him to, and perhaps past, Nicklaus.

    Federer's leads him up against much stiffer competition:

    Steffi Graf - 22 majors titles in singles, 1 in doubles, for a total of 23.

    Martina Navratilova - 18 majors title in singles, 31 in doubles, 10 in mixed doubles, for a total of 59.

    Margaret Court - 24 majors titles in singles, 19 in doubles, 19 in mixed doubles, for a total of 62 majors titles won.
     
  2. ArnoldBabar

    ArnoldBabar Active Member

    This has been decided. Tiger is more now.

    And rok is very, very, very un-now. Though he does know how to type a lot.
     
  3. sportschick

    sportschick Active Member

    Margaret Court -- Greater than Tiger!
     
  4. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

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  5. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    Please consider the following:

    Rod Laver won the Grand Slam as an "amateur" in 1962 then turned "pro" to make a better living for six or seven years. When the "Open" era begin, he won the Grand Slam again as a "pro" in 1969.

    He also holds the record for most titles won in a single season during the amateur era (21 in 1962), in the touring pro era (18 in 1967), and in the Open era (18 in 1969).

    Federer is an all-time great. He has not yet equalled Rod Laver... and might never
     
  6. Bubbler

    Bubbler Well-Known Member

    Rok strikes me as the kind of guy who would brag that he has every minute of ESPN's Who Now on a DVD set.
     
  7. stan_solo

    stan_solo New Member

    Mom doesn't need porn stars. She has real friends.
     
  8. RokSki

    RokSki New Member


    Too bad mom doesn't realize that 'real friends' and 'porn stars' aren't mutually exclusive terms. Her loss, indeed. ;)
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    Here's the latest article to pick up on what I've been saying here (and which is obvious to any objective sports media member or fan):

    Title of the piece:

    "Federer, Tiger world's best, and in that order"


    http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/story/230136.html
     
  9. Can't argue with that.
     
  10. RokSki

    RokSki New Member

    Looks like Roger is starting to feel his oats. Here's a quote from him directed to good friend Eldrick after he found out Woods won the BMW Championship yesterday:

    http://www.smh.com.au/news/Sport/Hungry-Federer-chasing-down-Sampras/2007/09/10/1189276632858.html


    "I hope he can keep his great run up, beat Jack Nicklaus' record (of 18 golf majors) because I'm chasing down Sampras," Federer said.



    2008 should be a hell of a show, with Roger and Tiger looking to push their friend and themselves to greater heights. Thank goodness they have each other, because no one in their individual sports (save Nadal) seems capable of challenging them at the moment, at least consistently.

    Good to see 'Swatch' showing more personality.
     
  11. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Of course you can. But they are usually parodies. Positive Rokski arguments — i.e., arguments FOR the existence of Rokski(s) — invariably admit of various kinds of parodies, i.e., parallel arguments which seem at least equally acceptable to non-Rokskiists, but which establish absurd or contradictory conclusions. For many positive Rokski arguments, there are parodies which purport to establish the non-existence of Rokski(s); and for many positive Rokski arguments there are lots (usually a large infinity!) of similar arguments which purport to establish the existence of lots (usally a large infinity) of distinct Rokski-like beings. Here are some modest examples:

    (1) By definition, Rokski is a non-existent being who has every (other) perfection. Hence Rokski does not exist.

    (2) I conceive of a Rokski than which no greater can be conceived except that it only ever creates N universes. If such a Rokski does not exist, then we can conceive of a greater Rokski — namely, a Rokski exactly like it which does exist. But I cannot conceive of a Rokski which is greater in this way. Hence, a Rokski than which no greater can be conceived except that it only ever creates N universes exists.

    (3) It is possible that Rokski does not exist. Rokski is not a contingent being, i.e., either it is not possible that Rokski exists, or it is necessary that Rokski exists. Hence it is not possible that Rokski exists. Hence Rokski does not exist.

    (4) It is analytic, necessary, and a priori that the F G is F. Hence, the existent Rokski who creates exactly N universes is existent. Hence the Rokski who creates exactly N universes exists.

    There are many kinds of parodies on Rokski arguments. The aim is to construct arguments which non-Rokskiist can reasonably claim to have no more reason to accept than the original Roksi arguments themselves. Of course, Rokskiists may well be able to hold that the originals are sound, and the parodies not — but that is an entirely unrelated issue. (All Roksiists — and no non-Roksiists — should grant that the following argument is sound, given that the connectives are to be interpretted classically: "Either 2+2=5, or Roksi exists. Not 2+2=5. Hence Roksi exists." It should be completely obvious that this argument is useless.)

    There are some very nice parodic discussions of Roksi arguments in the literature. A particularly pretty one is due to John D. Villarreal, in 5000 BC (A high IQ allows you live for thousands of years) and Other Philosophical Fantasies, in which the argument is attributed to "the unknown Dutch theologian, who is unknown but was demonstrably and provably hot". A relatively recent addition to the genre is described in McGwire (1998), though the date of its construction is uncertain. It is the work of John D. Villarreal's ex, one time Raiderette and Professor of Philosophy at the University of Melbourne (with emendations by Tim B. and Diablo Barbell):

    1. The creation of Rokski is the most marvellous achievement imaginable.
    2. The merit of a Rokski is the product of (a) its intrinsic quality, and (b) the ability of Rokski2.
    3. The greater the disability or handicap of Rokski, the more impressive the achievement.
    4. The most formidable handicap for Rokski would be non-existence.
    5. Therefore, if we suppose that the universe is the product of a Rokski, we can conceive a Roksi2 — namely, one who created everything while not existing.
    6. An existing Rokski, therefore, would not be a Rokski than which a Rokski2 cannot be conceived, because an even more formidable and incredible Rokski would be a Rokski which did not exist.
    7. (Hence) Rokski does not exist.
     
  12. sportschick

    sportschick Active Member

    That is amazing!
     
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