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Republican poised for upset in NY-9 (Weiner's Old Seat)

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by YankeeFan, Sep 12, 2011.

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  1. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    You really think it takes the incentive?

    That district is in the heart of Vito Lopez territory, even if it does split itself with Queens. There is nothing pure about the machine politics that decides what gets done around there, who runs for office and what he or she owes in return. Which always made Weiner suspect to me. He had to have sold his soul just to get the seat. There typically isn't even a real election. The Democratic machine (and I don't mean that as a pissing match. These guys are not Democrats the way Barack Obama is. They are Democrats the way Boss Tweed was) decides who the candidate is going to be and that person gets the seat. It's a testament to just how badly Weiner fucked up that there is an actual show of democracy breaking out there right now.
     
    The Big Ragu, Sep 13, 2011
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  2. Bob Cook

    Bob Cook Active Member

    It's like what happened with Dan Rostenkowski's district, except that Rosty himself was still running when he was in the middle of his mail fraud investigation (led by Eric Holder, by the way). The Republican beat him, because at that point a squirrel could beat Rosty, who refused to step aside. Of course, in two years the district reverted to form as the district elected a young machine up-and-comer you all know as deposed Gov. Rod Blagojevich.
     
    Bob Cook, Sep 13, 2011
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  3. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Good coverage here: http://twitter.com/#!/maghabepolitico
     
    YankeeFan, Sep 13, 2011
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  4. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    AP has called it for the Republican:

    I'm pretty shocked. Until about 24 hours ago, I figured this was one of those races they would say was close, we'd lose by 6 points, and try to call it some kind of moral victory.
     
    YankeeFan, Sep 13, 2011
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  5. Uncle.Ruckus

    Uncle.Ruckus Guest

    No, you didn't.

    And AP, as usual, has no idea what it's talking about. This had nothing to do with the economy. This was Ed Koch sending Obama a message on Israel.
     
    Uncle.Ruckus, Sep 13, 2011
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  6. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    I really did not expect the Republicans to win this seat. Honest to God.

    3-1 Dems. Dem seat (and Jewish seat) since 1923. It's Schumer's old seat.

    The national Republican Party wasn't going to spend any (real) money here. Media is too expensive. Turnout in a special election is key, and the Dems have the ground game. There is no Queens Republican party or Brooklyn Republican Party to speak off.

    The Dems should have been able to pull out their vote.

    As for Koch, I'm not sure he mattered much. It's been a long time since he's been Mayor, and he's endorsed a lot of Republicans over the years (Rudy, GWB).

    Dov Hikind, an Orthodox Assemblyman also endorsed Turner. He's endorsed Republicans before as well. I'd say his endorsement mattered in that district more than Koch.

    Though this Fred Dicker (NY Post Albany/Political Reporter/Columnist) does say some people wanted to send Obama a message:

     
    YankeeFan, Sep 13, 2011
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  7. cjericho

    cjericho Well-Known Member

    So if Weprin loses he can fall back on a 300k a year job at Vito's non-profit.
     
    cjericho, Sep 14, 2011
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  8. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    Isn't that pretty ominous in itself, the prospect that the Jewish vote abandons Obama?

    Frankly, I never have figured out why Jews would ever have voted for him in the first place given the whole Jeremiah Wright thing.
     
    da man, Sep 14, 2011
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  9. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    @HotlineJess -- Jessica Taylor

    Overheard: "Bob doesn't Twitter or Facebook" #NY09
     
    YankeeFan, Sep 14, 2011
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  10. CarltonBanks

    CarltonBanks New Member

    This is great news for Obama...I heard so on MSNBC.
     
    CarltonBanks, Sep 14, 2011
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  11. printdust

    printdust New Member

    It has to be a vast right-wing conspiracy. Damn Tea Party.
     
    printdust, Sep 14, 2011
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  12. Flying Headbutt

    Flying Headbutt Moderator Staff Member

    Isn't the seat going to be eliminated in another year anyway?
     
    Flying Headbutt, Sep 14, 2011
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