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Reid goes nuclear...

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by CarltonBanks, Oct 7, 2011.

  1. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    And wouldn't our federal government just be so effective if it was simply a standoff between California and Texas?
     
  2. Guy_Incognito

    Guy_Incognito Well-Known Member

    What's great about this is that it's one of those times where both sides get to point and shout "hypocrite!!!" at the other.
     
  3. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    It doesn't ... all it says is that the respective houses of Congress have the power to make their own rules. Interestingly, the right to filibuster was always there. The House came up with rules to limit debate very early on. The Senate didn't have formal rules to limit debate until 1917 (when the cloture requirement was made 2/3rds). The requirement was lowered to 3/5ths in 1975, but cloture votes on proposed rule changes still require 2/3rds.
     
  4. Stitch

    Stitch Active Member

    The Parliamentarian knows current legislative bodies aren't bound by rules set in previous sessions.
     
  5. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    Outing alert! Michael_Gee is:

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  6. terrier

    terrier Well-Known Member

    Reid ought to go have a long talk with Bill Frist. Think Frist is relieved his move to do the same thing failed, when the GOP had a bigger majority than the Dems do now?
     
  7. Point of Order

    Point of Order Active Member

    HILARIOUS!
     
  8. CarltonBanks

    CarltonBanks New Member

    Wasn't it John McCain (or, as he was formerly referred to, Bush III) that stopped Frist?
     
  9. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Correct. This was when the GOP was thinking they were going to control everything for 50 years. McCain, and a few other Senators on both sides of the aisle got Frist to stop, telling him that their visions of total dominance weren't going to happen, and they wouldn't like it when it would happen to them.
     
  10. Greenhorn

    Greenhorn Active Member

    Playing on the Star Wars theme....

    Frist, now that's a name I've not heard in a long time.

    He was supposed to be future GOP presidential material.
     
  11. CarltonBanks

    CarltonBanks New Member

    What do you think, is Reid going to wish someone would have stopped him? If the Dems lose control of the Senate, and also retain the House, and also win the presidency it is going to be very, very bad for liberals. I don't think they are thinking about the consequences of their actions. Obama is setting presedents the Democrats are not going to like when a Republican is elected. The Czars (I know Bush started them, but Obama has a lot more than Bush did), "deemed passed," major bills with zero minority votes, no filibuster, etc.

    That's what I think is the funny thing about all this...in Jan. 2013 the Republicans could possibly control everything and be able to pass whatever they want. They can now repeal Obamacare (if it is not struck down by the Supreme Court) a lot easier. The Dems are setting up their own nightmare.
     
  12. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Your scenario has Obama being re-elected and the House of Representatives returning to Democrat control. It could just be a grammatical error, but secretly, you know you want it and you know you want it bad.
     
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