Ray Guy's best chance to make the Hall of Fame?

What a ridiculous argument. Now we are using the how many rings bullshit with punters.

 

Guy was a significant offensive weapon in that his punting changed field position many times. He was a major factor in the Raiders' success.

 

In the third Super Bowl win, he made a play that arguably, was more important than Marcus Allen's TD run, when he caught an errant snap one-handed and got the ball away. Raiders were only up 7-0 at the time.

 

David Tyree hall of famer.

 

It's not just the three rings. Guy made 7 Pro Bowls, was 6-time first team All-Pro, was on the NFL's 75th anniversary team and the 70s all-decade team.

 

Which goes back to my point. The legend of Ray Guy probably deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. The real player? Not so much.

 

How many times did you watch him play?

You're acting like the guy's career was imagined. I have no idea if Guy should be enshrined in Canton, but it sure seems like a lot of people think he's the best punter to ever play in the NFL. These are probably the same people who haven't voted him into Canton when he's been a finalist, so to say that everyone has some kind of agenda to trump up the guy's career seems paranoid and absurd.

 

Yes, let's compare a 7-time Pro Bowler to a guy who did a pretty good job covering kicks for three years and had 54 career catches. Brilliant.

 

Was Ray Guy a good tackler? I ask this seriously.

A lot is made of his athleticism and he was a starting safety in college. To a modern reviewer that sounds amazing because punters now are mainly just punters with no other football skills (except holding extra points) . As said earlier, White and McNally were punters who also played other positions in the same era as Guy. So, really, a punter with other skills was not so unusual.

I've always assumed he must have been a good last line defender for the Raiders because he has played safety, but have never actually heard it brought up. Anyone know? Anyone remember?

 

I didn't say his career was imagined. I'm saying it has been enhanced by imagination and legend. Nobody is presenting numbers to back up their claims about his legendary hang time. This idea that he never had a punt returned for a touchdown against him is at best, in dispute.

I watched Guy play plenty. Much of his career fell into my formative years as a football junkie. Sorry, but eyeball tests alone aren't good enough and the numbers don't support his legend.

 

I would argue that Danny White did more to help his teams win throughout his career than Guy did. I'm not about to suggest White belongs in the HOF.