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Punching someone in a Nazi uniform is a bias crime

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by EStreetJoe, Sep 4, 2011.

  1. EStreetJoe

    EStreetJoe Well-Known Member

    On a Community College campus -- an unidentified African-American, aged 18-22, punches a 52-year old student wearing a military-style helmet and a swastika armband in the face, dropping him with a single punch. Head of campus police says the county prosecutor's office told him it could be defined as a bias crime. College and county spokespeople are defending the victim saying the swastika was just an expression of free speech and violence against that type of free speech should not be tolerated.

    Full story here:

    I didn't realize that Nazis were a protected group when it came to bias crimes.
  2. CarltonBanks

    CarltonBanks New Member

    Did you think we could just go up and punch anyone that offends us? Regardless of what kind of an idiot the older guy is, you can't go up and pop him because you don't like his views. Doesn't matter if he is a Nazi, NAMBLA member or even a Democrat.
  3. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Everyone should be a protected group. Or rather, nobody should be.
  4. EStreetJoe

    EStreetJoe Well-Known Member

    You obviously can't go up to someone and punch them in the face if their political views or beliefs offend.
    I'm just surprised that Nazis (ie. a political party) are included in bias crimes (which are usually also referred to as hate crimes) against someone due to religion, race or sexual preference.
  5. HejiraHenry

    HejiraHenry Well-Known Member

    "I hate Illinois Nazis."
  6. Rhody31

    Rhody31 Well-Known Member

    Why wouldn't they be?
    I never quite understood putting hate crimes as a separate crime. I'm pretty sure every crime involves hate.
  7. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Not necessarily.

    Someone steals a loaf of bread to feed his family. They're not doing it because they hate the shop owner. They're doing it for economic reasons.
  8. spikechiquet

    spikechiquet Well-Known Member

    It's a hate crime...they hate to be hungry. Duh.
  9. NoOneLikesUs

    NoOneLikesUs Active Member

    If you do not care about the consequences of your actions, you can do whatever the hell you want.
  10. Rhody31

    Rhody31 Well-Known Member

    Good point.
    Most assaults involve hate then?
  11. J Staley

    J Staley Member

    I wouldn't go that far. If a man mugs another man in order to buy drugs, the assault probably isn't personal. The mugger doesn't hate his victim. He just sees him as an opportunity.

    Regarding this story, I don't think you can condone a random attack, even if it's against a Nazi. And the Nazi's rights should be protected. At the same time, I always thought of a hate crime victim's being a person that was targeted because of inherent characteristics, not choices or beliefs. Not sure what difference it makes, but that's just how I always saw it.
  12. printdust

    printdust New Member

    But in truth, hate groups and gays are the only ones these days with special protections. A violent crime is a violent crime, hate or not.
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