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Philly Fed prez: Recovery to start in second half of '09

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by 2muchcoffeeman, Jan 14, 2009.

  1. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    When the unemployment rate starts falling instead of rising, when companies stop laying off 10,000 at a time, then you start looking forward to better times.

    If Obama can create 2,000,000 jobs, that will be a very good starting point.
     
  2. Simon_Cowbell

    Simon_Cowbell Active Member

    I certainly believe that you could be right.

    Most believe it will be at the end of this year.
     
  3. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Dow up 170 - looks like we're back
     
  4. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    Any "up" day in the past 13 months in the stock market has been strictly due to news of government socializing the losses.

    Look it up.
     
  5. Herbert Anchovy

    Herbert Anchovy Active Member

    http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h1/show

    A little light reading.
     
  6. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    If there is one thing I have learned from this financial mess, it's that 95 percent of these so-called experts don't know squat about the economy.
     
  7. Stoney

    Stoney Well-Known Member

    Any chance you could link something to back that up?
     
  8. NoOneLikesUs

    NoOneLikesUs Active Member

    If the unemployed get no significant work to support their families (or even themselves) in a few months, there will be another round of massive home foreclosures.
     
  9. Simon_Cowbell

    Simon_Cowbell Active Member

    http://www.kpmg.com/Global/IssuesAndInsights/ArticlesAndPublications/Pages/Global-deal-activity-hit-bottom-Q2-Q3.aspx

    http://www.newwest.net/topic/article/housing_slump_wont_recover_until_late_2009_or_2010_economists_say/C35/L35/

    I get that there are also plenty of poindexters predicting dire straits until well into 2011.
     
  10. Stoney

    Stoney Well-Known Member

    You may need to re-read your second piece, Simon, you know the one that states: “We’re not out of this, by any stretch of the imagination; 2009 is going to be a bad year, not deeply negative, but a little bit negative. We’re not going to come out of this until the first quarter of 2010”, late 09 was addressed in that piece only as the absolute earliest possible bottom.

    But the point is those one or two opinions hardly show what "most" are thinking. You can cite just as many more pessimistic pieces. Nobody knows how long this thing is gonna go, and there's so many views on that I don't know how anyone can say theirs is the majority. Personally I can't see the pain subsiding this year, there's just way too much crap than needs cleaned first.
     
  11. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    Simon - you may want to check with the National Association of Realtors as well. There's never been a better time to buy or sell a house.

    And your first link from KPMG is strictly on M&A activity, not the country's economic recovery.
     
  12. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    How can this be the best time ever to both buy and sell a house?
     
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