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Pentagon Papers II

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Boom_70, Jul 25, 2010.

  1. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    The NYT through WikiLeaks released classified military documents that paints a realistic but bleak picture of war in Afghanistan.


    "WikiLeaks.org, the online organization that posted tens of thousands of classified military field reports about the Afghan war on Sunday, says its goal in disclosing secret documents is to reveal “unethical behavior” by governments and corporations. "
  2. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    Fixed. No original reporting here by the NYT.
  3. deskslave

    deskslave Active Member

    It's also being reported by The Guardian in England and Der Spiegel in Germany, with all three working together on the release, in part to give themselves multijurisdictional cover.

    It's the front 16 pages of The Guardian, so I haven't had a chance to read the whole thing yet. I'm hoping to get to it on the way home.
  4. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    I guess it depends on how you define original reporting.
    Certainly in today's paper The Times provides a lot of context and interpretation of the notes.
  5. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    One of key concerns raised - Pakistan taking our aid but then turning around and training the Taliban to kill our troops.

    If this is not a wake call to America I don't know what is.

    Let the debate begin.
  6. suburbia

    suburbia Active Member

    A wake-up call for what? That we should get out of this war? Or that we need more troops and/or need to keep them there indefinitely?
  7. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    I believe the wake-up call is that we need to start squabbling over which current or recent President to blame for the mess.

    Well, that's what's going to happen anyway.
  8. Stoney

    Stoney Well-Known Member

    Exactly. We're past the wake up call now. I think we can all agree on how fucked up the situation is. But how do we get out of it? Nobody wants to commit deeper to it, but pulling out right now would be viewed as Al Qaeda defeating us. So we remain stuck in this middle zone clusterfuck.
  9. Flying Headbutt

    Flying Headbutt Moderator Staff Member

    Well that's a good reason to keep putting lives at stake.
  10. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    A wake up call to get out. We cannot even accurately pin point who we are fighting.

    Hopefully Senator Kerry in his position as Chairman of Senate Foreign Relations committee becomes a voice of opposition. He can certainly speak from experience.
  11. Stoney

    Stoney Well-Known Member

    We leave now and the terrorists have won. Except this time that won't just be a dumb overused cliche.
  12. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Which terrorists? What have they won? As FHB asked is this worth sacrificing more American lives?

    Who are we fighting? Al Queada? The Taliban? Pakistan?
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