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Papers' Devils writer from team website

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Bob Crotchet, Apr 19, 2010.

  1. murphyc

    murphyc Well-Known Member

    I agree. How is running this NHL stuff worse than running a press release from a team/school/local sports organization?
    My concern in this case is the EE's promise that if a controversial subject comes up with the team, the paper won't use the team's writer. If you're not actually covering the team per se anymore, are you going to be aware of a controversy brewing? Or will you depend on competition and/or readers to tip you off?
     
  2. Fredrick

    Fredrick Well-Known Member

    Yeah it'll "only be done in sports coverage."
    The quote should have added. "We executive editors do not care about sports and wish sports would go away. Our reporters charge us for mileage and hotel rooms and airplane tickets when we realize anybody can write sports, so we're exploring all avenues to get sports copy to you dear reader at no charge to us. Anybody can cover a game."
     
  3. zagoshe

    zagoshe Well-Known Member

    LIke I wrote on the other thread - I have yet to read and/or meet a hockey writer who wasn't an embarrassing homer for the team he/she covered so this is par for the course.
     
  4. This seems to be the thinking. And I do think more people would be pissed about the city councilman writing the city council story than a PR person writing about sports. As far as the general audience, it's two different things. The issue of public funds seems to be the clincher. The problem is if a team has used public money for a stadium, or if it's a public university, then what does that PR person write for you?
     
  5. Clerk Typist

    Clerk Typist Guest

    Then you have never read Helene Elliott in Los Angeles, or Kevin Paul Dupont in Boston, and most certainly never have read anyone in the French language press in Montreal.
     
  6. Mark2010

    Mark2010 Active Member

    In fairness, we do that, although I edit them rather tightly. The truth is we don't have a staff large enough to cover every golf, tennis and track meet. It's either run the SID stuff or not run anything at all.
     
  7. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    I can't wait until readers start calling the editor wanting to know why there's no coverage in the paper of the latest trade rumor or coach firing.

    What's the editor supposed to say? "I'll get the team's PR person on it"?
     
  8. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    Seriously, people, there are not enough people in NJ concerned about the Devils to make a fuss about a trade rumor. And Lamoriello changes coaches so often, most people can't keep up with it.

    Again, I think this is a bad thing but 95% of the readers won't even notice.
     
  9. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    I surprised how many sports journalists are making a distinction between "sports" and "news".

    It's either journalism, or it's not. And unless you treat sports like a genuine journalistic subject, why should anyone else? Reporters of any other subject wouldn't justify this, and neither should sports writers.

    I had to deal with this attitude when I worked in sports marketing. We got the same, "you guys get paid to go to sporting events" attitude that many of you get.

    I had to work hard to dispel that notion and show where we brought value.

    And nothing pissed me off more than when someone -- one very annoying person in particular -- would make a point of bragging about being at an event or would do something stupid like try to get an autograph.
     
  10. Dr. Howard

    Dr. Howard Member

    These yahoos have how many newspapers in NJ? And they can't figure out a way for one guy to staff the Devils for all of them? Didn't they take a bureau approach with the newspapers being ruined in Florida? I'm not sure which part of this is the worst -- that the Asbury Park Press (which pre-Gannett was pretty darn good) would do this or that the piece of cheese who runs the place can't understand the ethical issue.
     
  11. WriteThinking

    WriteThinking Well-Known Member

    The ethics and possible conflicts of interest notwithstanding, the worst thing about this is even more obvious and troubling.

    It marks the loss of more actual professional journalists' work and job possibilities.

    Papers are moving beyond doing more with less in terms of what they are offering in their product. They doing more with fewer and fewer journalists...intentionally.

    In finding ways to do "journalism" without journalists, they are just giving another indication of how the industry is changing, and hurting.

    What this business is going through is not the evolution we all thought was going on as times and technology changed.

    For journalists, this is downright devolution. There's no other way to spin it.
     
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