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No smoking in cars carrying children: Big Brother or good idea

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Flash, Mar 23, 2008.

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  1. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    I do not smoke in my car if there is anyone -- adult or child -- in the car with me who is a non-smoker. I consider it common courtesy. I do not need the governemnt telling me whether I can smoke in my own car.

    While we're at it, why not a law limiting the volume on your car stereo if there's a child in the car. After all, you can damage the poor kid's hearing.

    Funny how so many of you can trash the Bush administration (rightfully so) for trampling on peoples' rights yet you can support this kind of government intrusion as "protecting the children."
     
  2. Flying Headbutt

    Flying Headbutt Moderator Staff Member

    No, but if you buy them that happy meal they can. Either way, you're passing something unhealthy on to them.
     
  3. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    Just sterilize smokers and be done with it.
     
  4. JR

    JR Well-Known Member

    Methinks everybody has staked out their turf on this one.

    One one side, the Socialist Hordes from Canada and on the other side, the "We Can Do What the Fuck We Want When We Want" Americans. :)

    I don't have a problem with the law whatsoever any more than I have a problem with mandatory seatbelts.
     
  5. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Actually, yes, the 4-year-old can avoid eating something. Not that they would, but they can. Trust me. I know it well.

    Again, if you can tell people how to strap their children into cars, to wear their seatbelts and you not to talk on cell phones in cars, you can tell them not to smoke with children in the car.

    And great, spnited, you understand the common courtesy there. Unfortunately, plenty of idiots out there can't control themselves well enough to put the welfare of their children before their own pathetic addictions.
     
  6. Flying Headbutt

    Flying Headbutt Moderator Staff Member

    Honestly, how many children would go to a McDonalds or Burger King or where ever and say no, they didn't want a happy meal with a toy? They'd rather have celery sticks or something else that kids eat that's healthy? If an adult takes a child there and says that's what's for lunch, that's what the kid is eating. You're right I guess in this hypothetical. They CAN, but not that they WOULD.
     
  7. Lugnuts

    Lugnuts Well-Known Member

    If scientific, double blind, placebo controlled studies continue to say the affects of secondhand smoke on children are significant, I'd be in favor of laws similar to the seatbelt and carseat laws.

    In other words, police aren't necessarily stalking you trying to catch you not wearing your seatbelt or not putting your baby rear-facing in the carseat... But if you get pulled over for something else and the police notice you're not doing it, they ticket you. You could certainly do the same thing with smoking/kid in car.

    The latest scary study I saw about secondhand smoke and kids was that if you smoke around your kids for an extended period of time, it could affect your little boy's sperm count when he gets older and your little girl's ability to have a child. It's scary.
     
  8. Bubbler

    Bubbler Well-Known Member

    Exactly. If it stays within those limits, I'm all for it.

    If they start doing click it-or-ticket style enforcement, I'm not.
     
  9. Kids aren't property. And, yes, some parents need to be forced to treat their children correctly. It's a sad reality. Those parents who are treating their kids right - ie. not forcing the kid to breathe their second-hand smoke - have nothing to worry about.
     
  10. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    And I'm sure every single one of them would love to to get away from the smoke in the car.
     
  11. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

    Mandatory seatbelt and helmet laws are a joke, enacted only because of lobbyists from insurance companies who didn't want to pay the medical bills of those they insure.

    I wear a helmet when I go for a bike ride and I always wear my seatbelt. But if I want to run the risks of massive brain damage, paralysis or death by not doing either of those things, it's my own damn business.

    Insurance is the biggest scam in the history of the planet and seatbelt/helmet laws are just another way to keep them from having to pay claims. [/rant]
     
  12. Pastor

    Pastor Active Member


    I’m not all that in favor of the law, but it seems that some reminding is needed. Driving is not a right. Nobody is born with the right to drive. It is a privilege. It is a privilege that can be revoked at any time.

    I don’t believe that there is the right to smoke on a bus or train these days either. So, if the government decides to extend its control over travel by removing tobacco… it can.
     
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