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Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Columbo, Sep 4, 2006.


Who is most deserving of the NL Rookie of the Year

  1. Marlins SS Hanley Ramirez

    6 vote(s)
  2. Marlins 2B Dan Uggla

    10 vote(s)
  3. Marlins SP Josh Johnson

    6 vote(s)
  4. Nationals 3B Ryan Zimmerman

    17 vote(s)
  5. Marlins SP Scott Olsen

    1 vote(s)
  6. Marlins OF Josh Willingham

    0 vote(s)
  7. Dodgers PF Andre Ethier

    2 vote(s)
  8. Brewers 1B Prince Fielder

    7 vote(s)
  1. Columbo

    Columbo Active Member

    With four weeks left, Ramirez has pushed ahead for me. Wonderful offensive numbers in addition to great defense.

    103 R
    13 HRs
    49 RBI
    44 SB

    .287 BA
    .814 OPS
  2. Trey Beamon

    Trey Beamon Active Member

    Hanley's been tremendous; did not think he'd hit for power so soon.

    I'm going with Zimmerman, though: Good offensive numbers (particularly doubles, RBIs) in a horrible ballpark/lineup. Defense isn't bad at third, either.

    Fanboy pick, er, runner-up: Ronny Paulino, Pittsburgh
  3. Moderator1

    Moderator1 Moderator Staff Member

    Fielder no longer a candidate? The dude from LA?
  4. Columbo

    Columbo Active Member

    Marlins ballpark is a worse hitters park.

    Unlike MVP, I DO believe rookies contributing to a playoff drive should get extra consideration. To succeed in the crucible your first time through is pretty incredible.

    Fielder folded like a pup tent as Milwaukee collapsed, and Ethier, to me, doesn't have the at-bats... though you are right, at this moment, they should be options other than Olsen and Willingham.

    Zimmerman? OPS is a mere .15 better than Hanley, Ramirez plays a tougher position.

    Oh, and then you have to toss in the SBs at some point.
  5. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

    Are you saying MVP votes SHOULDN'T take playoff position/drives into account, but ROY votes SHOULD?
  6. DyePack

    DyePack New Member

    Cubs SS Ronny Cedeno.
  7. shotglass

    shotglass Guest

    Good choice, but ...

    ... that's damning him with faint praise. Zimmerman is already one of the best defensive third basemen to ever take the field. He has made plays this season which just have not been seen before.
  8. Trey Beamon

    Trey Beamon Active Member

    Forgot to use the sarcasm font, shot. He's fantastic over there.

    I'm just shocked he lasted until the fourth overall pick last year. I'd much rather have Zimmerman than Alex Gordon -- a fine prospect in his own right -- the next 5-7 years.
  9. shotglass

    shotglass Guest

    Great. Just great. Now I feel stupid, and it's all your fault. ;)
  10. Columbo

    Columbo Active Member

    I wrote that poorly.

    I meant that I would give it greater weight for a rookie.
  11. Space Monkey

    Space Monkey Member

    Great crop of rookies.

    I'll add one more name to the list: St. Louis Cardinals OF Chris Duncan.

    In 66 games, Duncan is hitting .323 with 15 home runs, 31 RBIs and 45 runs scored.

    I don't think he deserves the award more than Hanley Ramirez or Ryan Zimmerman, but he should be somewhere in the conversation. If he's able to finish the season strong, he could end up with good numbers and make sure the Cardinals win the NL Central.
  12. Columbo

    Columbo Active Member

    Just not enough at-bats to compete with this crew, I feel.

    Also, his largely platoon status, mentioned on another thread, hurts him too.
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