NL Cy Young poll

Yup. Convinced me.

Trevor Hoffman's got my vote.

 

Your patent idiocy aside, I should never vote early in thes things.

Affects about 2/3 of the votes.

Totally explains why Jim Rice isn't in the Hall.

What a bunch of thinskins.

 

Yup. If pube is disagreeing with you, you more than likely are on to something.

 

Out of curiosity, I looked ad Carpenter's no decisions. I know other pitchers likely did the same, but it looks like Carpenter pitched well enough to get at least five more wins (a 9 inn, 1 ER game; 2x 6 inn, 0 ER; 2x 7 inn, 1 ER). Clemmens like in terms of run support in a lot of his starts this year, I guess, but I know a lot of pitchers can say the same.

I'm not for career awards being handed over for Cy Young, heisman, etc, but if ever there was a time, I'd say this might be the one for Hoffman.

That rambling post said, my vote is Carpenter. And I agree, a slap across the face of Izzy (8 losses, 10 blown saves and a 3.55 ERA for a closer is awful) would be acceptable for even making this Cy Young race (or the division race) a question this year.

 

No, it's because Jim Rice was a one-dimensional player who played in a very favorable park and had a fairly short career for a Hall of Famer.

 

I don't know that he was a dominant player when the Red Sox won in 1986. And I think maybe because he was so awesome in his first six years, everything that came after was a disappointment. I would be curious - and maybe there is a site - to know what Rice's statistics were on the road.

The guy I think should be in the Hall of Fame is Jack Morris. For most of the 80s, he was a dominant pitcher. I know the knock on his was a high ERA, but he pitched in a hitter's ballpark for most of his career and he would also go deep into games, maybe giving up a run later in the game but still winning.

 

On Rice: He had 120 RBI in 1986, but got little credit since Clemens' season was so remarkably dominant. The sudden decline was just that. By the 1988 All-Star break Rice was pretty much done. I vote for him every year. He was widely seen as the best power hitter in the AL for five or six seasons. That's a long time atop that heap.

 

Morris not in the hall is a pure travesty.

 

I noticed that the poll list does not include the one guy who flirted with no less than four no-hitters this season -- Chris Young.

AND his team made postseason.

 

He only won 11 games. In 31 starts.

 

If Jim Rice wasn't forced to sit out the 75 Series, would the Red Sox have won it? And if Jim Rice won a World Series, how differently would people view him?

 

Bumping up with the announcement that Brandon Webb won this year's NL's Least Mediocre Pitcher of the Year Award.