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NJ.com: Some Jersey City Muslims did celebrate 9/11, cop and residents say

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by YankeeFan, Dec 21, 2015.

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  1. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    ALL of the reports were unconfirmed, for whatever reason.

    Again, Trump didn't equivocate. He was the one bloviating that evidence actually existed of thousands and thousands of Muslims celebrating, instead of just rumors of a small celebration here and there. And, since we're talking about "implications," he was doing so to heavily imply that A) all Muslims are bloodthirsty savages, and B) the media purposely ignored the celebrations.

    Does anyone really think thousands of people on American soil celebrating the worst terror attack in American history would've been ignored?
     
  2. Mr. Sunshine

    Mr. Sunshine Well-Known Member

    Probably not, but would you have thought so many Americans would have become politically correct Muslim/terrorist sympathizers after 9/11?
     
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  3. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Can you fill us in with a thoughtful response on how best to deal with Muslims who don't have any interest in committing acts of terror?
     
  4. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    "The media" is a horrible description for this situation. NJ Advance is "the media" and that media found out the truth. There has always been shoddy, reactionary, shallow reporting. Always. "The media" as a whole is made up of humans, so, naturally, it would be flawed. It is flawed.

    Which media went off the rails about this? Would their partisan counterpart in the media go off the rails about something else regarding a Democratic candidate?

    Who is this media? Why do you, seasoned media consumer, trust them?

    Who are you to call for their retraction when, in fact, they do quite well not retracting anything and feeding off of your outrage?

    There is responsible media and irresponsible media. Sometimes, that outlet is one thing one day and another thing another day. It's complex. It's tough. It's driven by money and capitalism. And now, in the last 25 years so, the media on the radio is frankly rigged to the hilt, by design, as allowed by laws that changed in the 1980s.

    So, yes, it is troubling times for the media. But your commentaries are middling at best in resolution of any of this. Journalism of this scale and reaction time - which is oten instantaneous in the Internet - is really damn hard. It takes really damn good, ethical people to do it.
     
  5. Riptide

    Riptide Well-Known Member

    "Jock-sniffer" comes to mind.

    Never worked a beat. Wants to run the newsroom.
     
  6. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

    Has NJ Advanced Media found out the "truth?" There is nothing in the story posted by YankeeFan that proves that New Jersey Muslims were celebrating the destruction of the Twin Towers. The accounts given by the officers quoted are not yet corroborated by any documentary evidence. There are no police reports backing up those assertions and they haven't yet released any 911 logs that corroborate the accounts of Knight, Guzman, Ferran or Teeter (that may end up happening, but it has not as of yet).

    The accounts were contradicted by others in the same story, including Dzamba, O'Neill, and even Knight, who said he did not see the gathering on the rooftop, but he did see some Muslims celebrating in the street.

    With no credible documentary evidence to back up any of these claims, why is anyone - much less a media watchdog such as YF - accepting them as fact?

    If any of these reported groups of 6-10 Muslim men, in fact, did celebrate on a rooftop in New Jersey, it certainly does not lend any credence to Trump's statements, which were categorically false.
     
  7. JohnHammond

    JohnHammond Well-Known Member

    Muslims were cheering successful black ops operations pulled off by Blackwater and funded by the Bilderberg Group.
     
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  8. daemon

    daemon Well-Known Member

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    -Thousands of Christians cheered 9/11.

    -Thousands?

    -There were people that were cheering in Kansas, where you have large Anglo-Saxon Christian populations. They were cheering as the World Trade Center came down. I know it might be not politically correct for you to talk about it, but there were people cheering as that building came down -- as those buildings came down. And that tells you something. It was well covered at the time. Now, I know they don't like to talk about it, but it was well covered at the time. There were people over in Kansas that were watching it, a heavy Anglo-Saxon Christian population, that were cheering as the buildings came down. Not good.

    -Police say it didn't happen.

    YankeeFan-O-Fact: Mostly True.
     
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  9. daemon

    daemon Well-Known Member

    Thousands of Hindus believe the Holocaust is a myth.

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    More evidence of the media cover-up of Muslims true thoughts:



    What do we do now
     
  10. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    YF questions all reports by the media unless they support some point he is making. In that case, they must be considered the absolute truth and earn a place above all scrutiny.

    The best part is that you nailed him on the editing work he did earlier in the thread, leaving out the parts of the report that call his claim into question. Nicely done.
     
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  11. JohnHammond

    JohnHammond Well-Known Member

    Great, the board nanny approves.
     
  12. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    At least your post was useful for something, though certainly not its contents.

    It is telling that YF is paying enough attention to like your post, but hasn't responded to mine or bigpern's. In fact, bigpern has pointed out more than once that the article YF posted does not prove that New Jersey Muslims were celebrating that day, certainly not thousands of them, with no response from YF.
     
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