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NFL Week 14: Where have you gone Neil O'Donnell?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Simon_Cowbell, Dec 8, 2009.

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  1. Simon_Cowbell

    Simon_Cowbell Active Member

    The reason that the Steelers don't have Saints passing game is that their main receiver is a sloth, where the Saints have four legit No. 1 1/2 receivers.... and one of them is always wide-fucking-open
     
  2. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    And Super Bowl XXXIV (34, or a long time ago) was the last time a losing team outrushed the winning team in the final game.

    That was the Rams who beat an overmatched Titan team by a half yard.
     
  3. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    I didn't argue the Steelers last year. Roethlisberger carried that offense because they couldn't run consistently. They might have beaten the Chargers without him simply because San Diego couldn't stop the run at all (Willie Parker tore them up), but that would have been the end of the line.

    I argued the 2005 Steelers, who won despite their quarterback shitting himself in the Super Bowl, and I'll stick with that argument regarding Brady's first title. He was not an elite quarterback that season. He had a big game in the Super Bowl, but they won the AFC Championship in spite of him, not because of him.
     
  4. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    And Ben Roethlisberger is not quite as consistent as a passer as Drew Brees.

    I get it, twoback. You want to hang Sunday's loss on Arians. Sorry, that just isn't fair. He has done a lot wrong this year, but that one falls squarely on the shoulders of the defense.
     
  5. Twoback

    Twoback Active Member

    That sloth has 72 catches for 922 yards (and more than 10,000 yards for his career). He must get open a bit.
    And it's not like Santonio Holmes and Mike Wallace can't run.
    Thanks for playing.
     
  6. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Agreed on both. Tle Broncos' defense is very vulnerable to the pass, not a good thing against Manning.

    I don't see the Dolphins or Jaguars doing anything in the playoffs, either, but I think the winner of Sunday's game is going to get there.
     
  7. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Twoback, if you really think the only difference between the Saints' offense and the Steelers' offense is coaching, you are kidding yourself.
     
  8. Twoback

    Twoback Active Member

    You're up 10-6 on a team that weak entering the fourth quarter -- with Roethlisberger, Ward, Holmes, Wallace, Miller and Mendenhall at your disposal -- that's a coaching loss. After five times being shown evidence to the contrary, they gameplanned with the idea they would get a small lead and let the defense hold it.
    That's a failure to understand your team.
     
  9. Twoback

    Twoback Active Member

    Brees completes 69.1 percent.
    Roethlisberger completes 69.3.
    And Brees isn't handicapped by having Arians tied around his neck.
     
  10. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    There is more to consistency than completion perentage, and Roethlisbergers is inflated by his refusal to ever throw a ball away. Seriously, can you remember even one he has just thrown away this season?
     
  11. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    It's sort of a self-fulfilling argument. Winning a Super Bowl is one of the major criteria for many people to consider a player an elite QB, so of course there will be a lot of elite QBs on that list.
     
  12. mjp1542

    mjp1542 Member

    Yeah, a coaching loss. Yeah, OK. The coaches failed to convert 4th-and-1 in the second quarter. The coaches threw another egregious pick in the end zone in the first half. The coaches blew the coverage and Murphy's 75-yard TD catch and run. The coaches dropped an interception right into their chest on the final drive. Keep believing that.

    The Steelers' defense gave up 3 TDs in 8:21 to the Oakland Fucking Raiders and Bruce Gradkowski in the fourth quarter. That is what lost the game. Not Mike Tomlin or Bruce Arians or anyone else. That is five times in six losses that the defense failed miserably in the fourth quarter, and twice now to the Chiefs and Raiders. It's embarrassing, but it has little to do with the coaches. It's a lack of execution.
     
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