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MVP discussions

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by casty33, Nov 17, 2006.

  1. XXXX

    XXXX Member

    wow kind of like your disregard for ryan zimmerman's defense in the rookie of the year debate.
  2. Guy_Incognito

    Guy_Incognito Well-Known Member

    We went through this in the jessica Biel thread, but Jeter should win by a nose over Mauer having nothing to do with anything intangible. He was the best player in the league (the only other players to argue for are Dye, who missed the playoffs and Santana who depends on whether you prefer apples or oranges). Morneau was the leader in the clubhouse, but he stunk down the stretch, and wasn't nearly as good as the rest. I'd put him behing Thomas, and maybe even Hafner or Sizemore. Ortiz fell apart after his heart condition, when his team did. If he got credot for the big hits last year (as he should have, and did despite finishing 2nd), it costs him this year. Behind the pack.
  3. Columbo

    Columbo Active Member


    I accounted for Zimmerman's defense.

    And his purely mediocre offense for a corner position.
  4. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    NYY Post's George King is on the Jeter campaign trail:

  5. casty33

    casty33 Active Member

    Lt. Columbo: How can I argue for Howard, you wondered. First of all, I'm not arguing. I don't feel that strongly. What I have said all along is that I could easily accept Howard or Pujols winning, that's all. I believe it will be Howard based on him winning the players' vote for something or other. People are in love with his numbers. Pujols is tremendous, and his team won its division, but did the Phillies not have a better record than the Cardinals? That can justify voting for Howard if you're looking for justification. And Howard had a very good September, when Utley went into a slump.

    Again ... it's a close call. And if you're for Pujols, that's understandable. Either one of them winning is certainly justifiable. I don't envy the voters and am glad I no longer am an active member who might be asked to vote.

    I see it as a close vote with Howard edging Pujols as the only two who get first-place votes. If you -- or anbody else -- see it the other way, vive la difference.
  6. XXXX

    XXXX Member


    suck on that Columbo! haha!
  7. jagtrader

    jagtrader Active Member

    Here's a question for after Jeter's win:

    Ortiz has 40 more home runs and 40 more RBIs than Jeter. Since the writers love those Triple Crown stats -- why else would Howard have his first MVP right now? -- is that the biggest gap between the MVP and a non-winner in the history of the voting? It has to be close, although I imagine Larkin had a similar gap in his MVP year.

    It just shows the criteria for this award varies depending on who people want to win in a given year.
  8. BYH

    BYH Active Member

    File under: Bear shits in woods.
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