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Msnbc suspends Joe Scarborough

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by 21, Nov 19, 2010.

  1. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Yeah? I watched the full 10+ minutes. If you polled his statements, you'd probably get 75% of the US public agreeing with him.

    We have nuns & 3-year-olds getting groped at the airport, but we shouldn't deprive an Al-Queda murderer of sleep? Sure. How many people do you think agree with that?

    We waterboarded three people. It was ended before the end of the Bush administration. What did Joe advocate in that clip that would be contradicted by the current administrations actions?

    What has changed?

    Besides, it's silly to say someone is "pro" torture. You would object if I said that someone who is pro choice is "pro" abortion.

    Recognizing that something has value and might be necessary is not the same thing as being "pro".

    Lastly, given the right circumstances, I'm sure you'd be "pro" torture. If it would save the life of someone you loved -- a wife, daughter, parent -- would you object?
     
  2. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member

    Scarborough's all too chummy with the slippery-slope of civil liberties abuse, as are so many
    of the nation's shortsighted rightists who love to use the ACLU as a prime target of their scorn.

    So many of them just can't stand it when the Constitution is rightfully held up as a legitimate
    shelter from illegitimate abuse -- because some of the people who refer to the Constitution
    under those circumstances don't embrace the righties' barely-submerged social agenda.

    This country's waterboarded people on occasion since Teddy Roosevelt's time. It's a borderline
    practice. For a slob like Cheney to deliberately not classify it as torture is personally convenient for that
    joker. Having said that, there's legitimate grounds for debate about the use of the procedure. And so it goes.
     
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