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Military account of Tillman death 'utter fiction', says Pat's brother

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by goalmouth, Apr 24, 2007.

  1. Double Down

    Double Down Well-Known Member

    Re: "Military account of Tillman death 'utter fiction', says Pat's brother

    There were no good targets in Afghanistan, Zeke.
     
  2. Re: "Military account of Tillman death 'utter fiction', says Pat's brother

    Here was one.

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  3. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    Re: "Military account of Tillman death 'utter fiction', says Pat's brother

    Afghanistan=Hamsterdam, with Musharrf as Bunny Colvin.

    Set us a pitch meeting, DD.
     
  4. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Re: "Military account of Tillman death 'utter fiction', says Pat's brother

    Isn't that the CFO of Haliburton?
     
  5. Re: "Military account of Tillman death 'utter fiction', says Pat's brother

    Nah, he cashed out his stock options and bought a yacht.
     
  6. Terence Mann

    Terence Mann Member

    Re: "Military account of Tillman death 'utter fiction', says Pat's brother

    Reporters who work this story and use the term friendly fire, which is military doublespeak at its finest, are in a way complicit in helping the military soften the story. Step back for a minute and say that phrase: friendly fire.

    It's incredible how much the media lets the government, military and other officialdom control stories by controlling the language, which is quite often a language of deception. If ever a time called for the language of truth in this country, it's now.
     
  7. Smallpotatoes

    Smallpotatoes Well-Known Member

    Re: "Military account of Tillman death 'utter fiction', says Pat's brother

    Has the pro-war crowd done much in the way of trying to smear or discredit the Tillman family?
     
  8. Bubbler

    Bubbler Well-Known Member

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    I know what you're saying, but the term friendly fire has been around for a long time. Troops have been killed by their own troops since the dawn of time. I don't think the term friendly fire makes it any less tragic.
     
  9. Johnny Dangerously

    Johnny Dangerously Well-Known Member

    Re: "Military account of Tillman death 'utter fiction', says Pat's brother

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    "Friendly fire" is a term meant to soften the blow, just like downsizing and all the other corporate B.S. If those words didn't work their magic on some level with the masses, people in charge wouldn't insist upon using them. It's all part of a desensitizing to the harsh reality. That "friendly fire" has been considered an acceptable term in journalism circles as long as you suggest means that tiny battle of words was won a long time ago by the military.

    And no, it's not any less tragic, but we should be brutally honest with our words when it comes to something as important as this. It's also telling that the government would go to great lengths to lie about something so "friendly."
     
  10. RokSki

    RokSki New Member

    Re: "Military account of Tillman death 'utter fiction', says Pat's brother

    Effing 'unitary executive.' See: Wolfowitz, Gonzales. 'Apologies' without responsibility

    Thank goodness
     
  11. gingerbread

    gingerbread Well-Known Member

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    Are you serious? The ONLY reason there is government inquiry about Tillman's death is because Mary Tillman, Pat's mother, and Kevin Tillman, Pat's brother, have pushed ... and pushed ... and pushed, until the government was forced into action. And good for them; they have far more courage than people who take pot shots at Cindy Sheehan for asking why her son was killed in Iraq. Imagine if the Tillmans set up protest outside Bush's ranch. Imagine if Kevin Tillman, an army Ranger like Pat, was forced to confront one of Rush Limbaugh's bullies.
     
  12. Smallpotatoes

    Smallpotatoes Well-Known Member

    Re: "Military account of Tillman death 'utter fiction', says Pat's brother

    The popular opinion about Cindy Sheehan seems to be that she's a crackpot who is dishonoring her son's memory. How did it get to be that way and what are the chances that most people might think the same thing of the Tillmans?
     
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