Michelle Wie guns for second consecutive "dead last"

That's what the Satellite and Challenger tours are for: People not quite good good enough for the ATP Tour.

Until recently, Young stayed away from those events. He has now played in a couple and did OK (a semifinal and a quarterfinal, I believe).

Those tours are where pros learn how to win.

You don't learn to win by being given wild card after wild card into ATP Tour events and struggling to win even a single game.

 

Junkie, first of all, welcome back.

Second, point taken. This is what killed her in her last couple of men's events: i.e. she averaged 259 yards per drive at the 84. That means on most par-4s of 440-plus, she's hitting long irons or fairway metal when the average man is hitting 5-iron.

And yes, the LPGA is asleep at the switch here. That's why you'll see her w/ LPGA membership next year.

 

You know, I always wondered why Wie was showing up on these PGA events and now I know thanks to this thread.

Thanks.

 

If she applies for membership. I'm not so sure she will. If she's an LPGA member, she can only play in two events that are opposite LPGA tournaments. That will keep her out of a lot of these men's tournaments she's been playing this year.

 

What's the over/under on the number of years before she's in Playboy?

 

A thousand. Never gonna happen.

 

She needs to apply for the exemption in order to be able to join the tour.

If that's why she doesn't apply, that's pretty stupid.

 

These are great points and some others you may not have noticed. Commissioner Bivens wants Wie full-time on the Ladies Tour...it's the old guard of that Tour that causes the problems. They want her to "earn" her card by going to Q-School. They are also the ones setting up the exclusionary rules, regarding age, etc.

It's unfortunate because the Ladies Tour has missed countless marketing opportunities over the last 10 years. I once heard a veteran in a practice round dismiss the PGA Tour's policy of allowing seven sponsor expemtions and if a player earns the equivelant of the No. 125 player from the year before in those seven events, the individual get temporary status for the rest of the year. If the player finishes inside the top 125, he is fully exempt for the following year...not on the Ladies Tour. You get six exemptions, and play as Michelle has and she is still on the short end of the stick, despite qualifying for a Top 30 season-ending event. The vetearn went on to say that the Ladies Tour had the better players because it meant something to go through the Q-school. What a load.

Also, if you are good enough to play, you can Monday qualify for men's events (called the 4-spot). But not on the Ladies Tour. The monday qualifier on the LPGA has two available spots and is only open to players who have some kind of exempt status from the Q-school and amateurs. Otherwise, Michelle could Monday each event and "earn" her way on.

Ask Jenny Chasiraporn about the Ladies bullshit rules. You may remember her as the college amatuer that took Se Ri Pak to a Monday playoff at the US Open a few years back. A second-finish in that event was essentially enough money to have easily earned a Tour card for the following year should she have been a professional. Either way, she played her way to the opportunities of playing on Tour....she's coaching golf somewhere now I think, because she couldn't get through Q-school.

 

If that's why she doesn't apply, that's pretty stupid.

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And she hasn't done a lot of stupid things already?

 

Wie should take time to learn the golf rule book, spend her time practicing and playing in women's events. It's not about a woman vs. the men anymore. It's about someone with the gall to think that they're too good for the LPGA. I do think she can be a wonderful addition to the LPGA full time and she will win LPGA events. BUT, if she wants to tee it up with the men so bad ... go to Q school and freaking earn it!!!!!!!!

 

Did you even read the rest of this thread?

 

Maybe when she stops getting the ink and her picture in the paper for being near last and video highlights on the sports networks of her doing nothing remotely significant, she'll stop playing the men's tour.

Who else gets covered every weekend and gets a photo in most sports section for finishing next to last or thereabouts? Who was the last place guy the last two weeks? No one cares. Ignore her, maybe she'll go away -- to the LPGA tour.