Maybe Police Are Responsible For Unsolved Murders Of Black Youth In Chicago

Baron Scicluna · Jul 23, 2013

gravehunter said:

qtlaw said:

heyabbott said:

qtlaw said:

How about holding the audience responsible for jumping to conclusions? I get what she said, she was expressly repeating what she was told and told everyone that.

People, how about doing a little thinking on your own?

Its stupid to kill the messenger, that's what this Davis was, purely the messenger. I have not followed who she is but don't rip her for merely repeating what others said, those are the ones who should be held accountable.
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Until she names a date, time, place of a murder by cop, with the victim's name she's a liar and she's making this up. I don't doubt one or some of her constituents said it but people say tons of shit. Homosexuality is a curable disease, the US government was behind 9-11, the pyramids were built by aliens, everyone will have their own jetpacks by 1978, Sarah Palin and CLarence Thomas are qualifed. But if you are an elected official and you are calling out your police department for serial racially motivated murders, if you don't have any facts and are just repeating what ignorant people are whispering, then you are a liar and ought to be called such.
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There are several conclusions being made here that do not appear accurate:

1. If you look at her quotes, I don't think she's calling out the police dept.; and
2. Repeating what someone else says is not lying.

You may think me disingenuous, or splitting hairs but that's the truth. The only question is whether she accurately repeated what she was told.

I'll just give this up, she's probably a nutcase, but what I hate is that audience members who are too lazy to do their own scrutiny of the truth get a free pass.
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So as long as she says that someone told her these things, she gets a free pass? How do we know that someone actually said these things to her?
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Radio talk show hosts have been getting a free pass for 30 years.

heyabbott · Jul 23, 2013

Boom_70 said:

Al Sharpton once told us that Tawana Brawley was raped by a group of white men
including an Assistan District Attorney. That ended badly for Al but it appears
that he has landed on his feet courtesy of MSNBC.
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Sharpton was found liable for 7 counts of defamation. And the judgment against him was paid by others.

Which makes him the love child of George Steinbrenner and Reggie Jackson, a born and convicted liar.

qtlaw · Jul 23, 2013

da man said:

gravehunter said:

qtlaw said:

heyabbott said:

qtlaw said:

How about holding the audience responsible for jumping to conclusions? I get what she said, she was expressly repeating what she was told and told everyone that.

People, how about doing a little thinking on your own?

Its stupid to kill the messenger, that's what this Davis was, purely the messenger. I have not followed who she is but don't rip her for merely repeating what others said, those are the ones who should be held accountable.
Click to expand...

Until she names a date, time, place of a murder by cop, with the victim's name she's a liar and she's making this up. I don't doubt one or some of her constituents said it but people say tons of shit. Homosexuality is a curable disease, the US government was behind 9-11, the pyramids were built by aliens, everyone will have their own jetpacks by 1978, Sarah Palin and CLarence Thomas are qualifed. But if you are an elected official and you are calling out your police department for serial racially motivated murders, if you don't have any facts and are just repeating what ignorant people are whispering, then you are a liar and ought to be called such.
Click to expand...

There are several conclusions being made here that do not appear accurate:

1. If you look at her quotes, I don't think she's calling out the police dept.; and
2. Repeating what someone else says is not lying.

You may think me disingenuous, or splitting hairs but that's the truth. The only question is whether she accurately repeated what she was told.

I'll just give this up, she's probably a nutcase, but what I hate is that audience members who are too lazy to do their own scrutiny of the truth get a free pass.
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So as long as she says that someone told her these things, she gets a free pass? How do we know that someone actually said these things to her?
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I seem to remember the lawyers at those New York Times Company libel seminars I attended years ago telling us that merely saying something is a rumor that you heard or "is circulating" is not a defense against an otherwise libelous statement.
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You want to avoid libel, just say its your opinion. "IMHO....."

da man · Jul 23, 2013

qtlaw said:

da man said:

gravehunter said:

qtlaw said:

heyabbott said:

qtlaw said:

How about holding the audience responsible for jumping to conclusions? I get what she said, she was expressly repeating what she was told and told everyone that.

People, how about doing a little thinking on your own?

Its stupid to kill the messenger, that's what this Davis was, purely the messenger. I have not followed who she is but don't rip her for merely repeating what others said, those are the ones who should be held accountable.
Click to expand...

Until she names a date, time, place of a murder by cop, with the victim's name she's a liar and she's making this up. I don't doubt one or some of her constituents said it but people say tons of shit. Homosexuality is a curable disease, the US government was behind 9-11, the pyramids were built by aliens, everyone will have their own jetpacks by 1978, Sarah Palin and CLarence Thomas are qualifed. But if you are an elected official and you are calling out your police department for serial racially motivated murders, if you don't have any facts and are just repeating what ignorant people are whispering, then you are a liar and ought to be called such.
Click to expand...

There are several conclusions being made here that do not appear accurate:

1. If you look at her quotes, I don't think she's calling out the police dept.; and
2. Repeating what someone else says is not lying.

You may think me disingenuous, or splitting hairs but that's the truth. The only question is whether she accurately repeated what she was told.

I'll just give this up, she's probably a nutcase, but what I hate is that audience members who are too lazy to do their own scrutiny of the truth get a free pass.
Click to expand...

So as long as she says that someone told her these things, she gets a free pass? How do we know that someone actually said these things to her?
Click to expand...

I seem to remember the lawyers at those New York Times Company libel seminars I attended years ago telling us that merely saying something is a rumor that you heard or "is circulating" is not a defense against an otherwise libelous statement.
Click to expand...

You want to avoid libel, just say its your opinion. "IMHO....."
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Actually, that doesn't always work, either.

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