Malaysia Airlines plane shot down over Eastern Ukraine

First of all, Strelkov has repeatedly said that he has no social media accounts, and anyone posting as him is doing so as an impostor. Does anyone have any proof of other postings by him? Certainly there have to be some if they are true.

Remember that fake report a few months ago saying that Jews in Eastern Ukraine were being forced to register? It was attributed to an official in the Ukrainian government and later shown to be done by someone wanting to stir up shit and provoke more anger in that region.

Let's just say someone in my house is.

 

The red plane is a Thai flight, not the Malaysian one.

 

Could you elaborate on someone in your house's theory?

 

Someone on CNN said the rebels captured a Buk system from the Ukraine military.

 

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/07/17/malaysia-airlines-passenger-jet-shot-down-over-ukraine/

This is from Fox News, so take it for what it's worth, but this line certainly caught my eye: "Separatist groups reportedly blocked Ukrainian officials from the scene, and later said the "black box," or flight data recorder, had been sent to Moscow."

Sent to Moscow? Ooh boy, if true, would that ever raise some red flags.

 

Links to any story pinning it on an Ukrainian official? We also have to conclude a Russian immigrant in the U.S. is in the loop regarding Russian-Ukrainian relations.

 

In a nutshell?

NATO (aka the United States) played a major role in toppling a democratically elected government in Ukraine and installed a Western-friendly replacement that would be its obedient dog. They want a Civil War in Ukraine (killing as many pro-Russian people as possible) and thus are continually stirring up trouble ---- "Russia is to blame for everything!" ---- and trying to create a divide between the EU and Russia so that the EU will buy its petroleum from America instead of Russia. And to finally and completely surround Russia's western border with NATO nations and NATO military bases.

That's the Fisher-Price version. The long version would cause your eyes to glaze. And you really need an advanced degree in Russia-Ukraine history to make sense of it.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/04/17/jews-ordered-to-register-in-east-ukraine/7816951/

It was "pinned on" Denis Pushilin (the name of the man on the leaflets), a leader of the pro-Russian movement in Donetsk.

It was the 1A centerpiece story on USA Today, sparked social media outrage for a few days and then died down when it was shown to be completely fake.

 

So... in a nutshell, someone in your house basically thinks it's OUR fault, and we're really the little devil behind all this? This was cooked up as part of a plot to sell more American oil?

Is someone in your house also an Alex Jones fan?

 

Ole Sully is the TV go to expert for anything to do
with commercial aviation

DANVILLE (CBS SF) – During a phone interview with CBS News Thursday morning, Captain Capt. Chesley “Sully” Sullenberger was questioned why Malaysia Airlines flight 17 would be flying over Ukraine’s border with Russia despite ongoing political unrest in the area

 

More than oil. It's to keep these nations dependent on dollars and to keep them dependent on us entirely. And its about surrounding Russia with NATO nations, breaking all the promises it made to Russia during the German reunification.

We DID spend $5 billion and sent our leaders over there to fuel the fire last winter, did we not?



How on earth would we feel if a bunch of Russian politicians tried to topple Canada's government and install a government friendly to its interests?

The U.S. saw an opportunity (a divided nation that needed a shove in the "right" direction) and jumped on it.

We care about democratically elected governments. As long as they are our puppets.

 

And that means the US shot down the jet?

 

Don't know what it means, exactly. It's entirely possible IMO that the separatists fucked up and thought they shot down a military plane and are now in CYA mode. It's also possible Ukraine was responsible for the change in the flight path that sent the plane right into the teeth of the trouble, hoping something "bad" would happen. Check out the flight paths from Wednesday-Thursday compared to the previous days. They show a severe shift to the north. There are also reports that two Ukrainian planes were tailing the MAS17 flight.

But I also believe NATO has a lot of blood on its hands for the unrest currently tearing Ukraine apart and for the troubles still to come. And that had we left the country alone and allowed the former president to serve out his term, none of this would be happening. A pro-Western president very likely would have been elected in 2016 anyway.