Kornheiser - just so stoopid

Where did I say that?


True or false: A baseball team winning a game has nothing to do with the ppitcher?

 

So, false, then.

 

You didn't. But the stat of "Wins" says it's 100%.

False, of course.

 

So the picher getting a win means something, right

 

Yeah! What is it good for?

 

How does a pitcher "get" a win?
Can a catcher get a win? An outfielder?

 

Jeff Mathis is credited with a pitcher's ERA under Mike Scioscia.

 

Felix Hernandez has an AL-leading 2.27 ERA (almost one full run better than C.C. Sabathia), a league-leading 232 strikeouts, a league-leading 249.2 innings in 34 starts, has only last fewer than six innings twice, only given up more than three earned runs four times -- and has had either zero runs or one run scored for him in 10 of his starts. It's his fault he's 13-12?

Hernandez's numbers are actually better across the board than what got him second place in the Cy Young last year. Numbers, of course, except wins.

Bar none, Hernandez is having the best year of any pitcher in the AL, and you don't even have to be a sabergeek to figure that out. At least David Price would be a defensible choice for Cy Young, even if he gets it because he has more wins. But that's BS that wins can suddenly override everything else. Hernandez did more than any other starting pitcher in the AL to put his team in position to win. It's not his fault his team can't hit for shit.

As for wins always meaning something, a reliever can have a lot of wins -- and that just means he happened to come in with the game tied, or he blew the lead and got his ass bailed out before the next pitcher came in.

 

I shouldn't have to. But yeah, that's how simple this concept is, and yet people still don't get it.

 

Which is a pretty interesting stat, I'd say, and shows that even stats we consider the full domain of pitchers, like ERA, are team dependent.

 

The Mariners have had a historically bad season... Last in the league in runs.... Toxic players like Milton Bradley, Ken Griffey, Jr., Eric Byrnes... The Yankees have scored 843 runs, the Mariners 506 runs.

Yet people judge the Cy Young based on wins...

Its like the world is filled with retards.

 

Pitching wins is every bit as contrived and bullshitty, if not more so. It was just invented by a dork 100 years before me.