Joe Schad

VJ · Jun 14, 2010

I guess that's my point. Let's not turn Chip Brown into some bastion of great journalism here. He's not uncovering news the schools don't want to get out. He's getting out the news the schools WANT released.

Ace · Jun 14, 2010

VJ said:

Chip Brown is simply repeating whatever he's told by the Texas AD that suits the school's needs at the time.

He floats the Big 12 to Pac-10 rumor to try and force Nebraska and Colorado out of the conference, then floats the "saving the Big 12" angle to make Texas look like the conquering hero. Meanwhile, the school winds up with a huge TV deal, still has the disparity in TV revenue that existed before, and looks like it's the one to thank for the Big 12 still being together. Not to mention there are now 2 less schools that Texas needs to share its TV revenue with. Oh and it can still start its own TV network.

It's actually quite brilliant by the Texas AD, but that doesn't mean what Chip Brown has done is great reporting. He simply repeats what he's told by the university. Congrats, that takes a lot of hard work to be a mouthpiece for one source.

There's a reason Rivals reporters often break news. It's because they get it straight from the athletic department and it stays on message. Same reason they get recruiting breaking news. Because it's positive news.
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Yeah. I don't know about Chip Brown, per se.

But slobbering about the breaking stories that -- at best -- come from one anonymous source that is floating something for his/her own purposes is not necessarily great, good or even accurate reporting.

Shaggy · Jun 14, 2010

Ace said:

VJ said:

Chip Brown is simply repeating whatever he's told by the Texas AD that suits the school's needs at the time.

He floats the Big 12 to Pac-10 rumor to try and force Nebraska and Colorado out of the conference, then floats the "saving the Big 12" angle to make Texas look like the conquering hero. Meanwhile, the school winds up with a huge TV deal, still has the disparity in TV revenue that existed before, and looks like it's the one to thank for the Big 12 still being together. Not to mention there are now 2 less schools that Texas needs to share its TV revenue with. Oh and it can still start its own TV network.

It's actually quite brilliant by the Texas AD, but that doesn't mean what Chip Brown has done is great reporting. He simply repeats what he's told by the university. Congrats, that takes a lot of hard work to be a mouthpiece for one source.

There's a reason Rivals reporters often break news. It's because they get it straight from the athletic department and it stays on message. Same reason they get recruiting breaking news. Because it's positive news.
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Yeah. I don't know about Chip Brown, per se.

But slobbering about the breaking stories that -- at best -- come from one anonymous source that is floating something for his/her own purposes is not necessarily great, good or even accurate reporting.
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Let's not start drinking haterade. We would all love to be the Texas mouthpiece, because Texas is calling the shots here and that can't be denied.

Chip Brown is in a place that we would all dream to be in.

Johnny Dangerously · Jun 14, 2010

Whoa there, cowboy.

Moderator1 · Jun 14, 2010

Wouldn't know Chip Brown if he came and left some brown on my living room rug. May be a fine guy, probably is a fine guy. And he's done some good work on this, though as posters have noted it hasn't been perfect and there are other asterisks involved.

He is NOT in a place I dream to be in, trust me on that.

Joe Schad is a friend of mine, so I'm not going to pile on. Yes, he missed here. I'd rip him a new asshole if I'd never missed anything.

The problem everyone is having with expansion reporting is two-fold: There's a lot of horseshit being tossed around, some of it intentional as noted above. And it changes, oh, every 10 minutes or so.

I won't swear our approach is the right one, it might not be because I'm far from perfect. But I'm preaching patience and a little extra research. Breaking stuff is great and we were ahead (as far as I know) on things like the Nebraska deadline and other small stuff. Nothing earth-shattering that's going to get us cheers here.

But (also as far as I know), we haven't been wrong yet, either.

Don't throw shit at a wall and hope something sticks. It usually doesn't and some usually splatters back on you. The smell of shit is hard to remove.

Ace · Jun 14, 2010

Shaggy said:

Ace said:

VJ said:

Chip Brown is simply repeating whatever he's told by the Texas AD that suits the school's needs at the time.

He floats the Big 12 to Pac-10 rumor to try and force Nebraska and Colorado out of the conference, then floats the "saving the Big 12" angle to make Texas look like the conquering hero. Meanwhile, the school winds up with a huge TV deal, still has the disparity in TV revenue that existed before, and looks like it's the one to thank for the Big 12 still being together. Not to mention there are now 2 less schools that Texas needs to share its TV revenue with. Oh and it can still start its own TV network.

It's actually quite brilliant by the Texas AD, but that doesn't mean what Chip Brown has done is great reporting. He simply repeats what he's told by the university. Congrats, that takes a lot of hard work to be a mouthpiece for one source.

There's a reason Rivals reporters often break news. It's because they get it straight from the athletic department and it stays on message. Same reason they get recruiting breaking news. Because it's positive news.
Click to expand...

Yeah. I don't know about Chip Brown, per se.

But slobbering about the breaking stories that -- at best -- come from one anonymous source that is floating something for his/her own purposes is not necessarily great, good or even accurate reporting.
Click to expand...

Let's not start drinking haterade. We would all love to be the Texas mouthpiece, because Texas is calling the shots here and that can't be denied.

Chip Brown is in a place that we would all dream to be in.
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Yeah. He's in a good spot. Not exactly Woodstein and Burnwood work, though.

Johnny Dangerously · Jun 14, 2010

The day I dream of being the (insert name here) mouthpiece because (insert name here) is calling the shots is the day I stop calling myself a sports journalist, recognize that P.R. is my new goal and hope I get P.R. pay and hours.

Jesus.

Shaggy · Jun 14, 2010

Ace said:

Shaggy said:

Ace said:

VJ said:

Chip Brown is simply repeating whatever he's told by the Texas AD that suits the school's needs at the time.

He floats the Big 12 to Pac-10 rumor to try and force Nebraska and Colorado out of the conference, then floats the "saving the Big 12" angle to make Texas look like the conquering hero. Meanwhile, the school winds up with a huge TV deal, still has the disparity in TV revenue that existed before, and looks like it's the one to thank for the Big 12 still being together. Not to mention there are now 2 less schools that Texas needs to share its TV revenue with. Oh and it can still start its own TV network.

It's actually quite brilliant by the Texas AD, but that doesn't mean what Chip Brown has done is great reporting. He simply repeats what he's told by the university. Congrats, that takes a lot of hard work to be a mouthpiece for one source.

There's a reason Rivals reporters often break news. It's because they get it straight from the athletic department and it stays on message. Same reason they get recruiting breaking news. Because it's positive news.
Click to expand...

Yeah. I don't know about Chip Brown, per se.

But slobbering about the breaking stories that -- at best -- come from one anonymous source that is floating something for his/her own purposes is not necessarily great, good or even accurate reporting.
Click to expand...

Let's not start drinking haterade. We would all love to be the Texas mouthpiece, because Texas is calling the shots here and that can't be denied.

Chip Brown is in a place that we would all dream to be in.
Click to expand...

Yeah. He's in a good spot. Not exactly Woodstein and Burnwood work, though.
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I won't disagree. But 5-6 schools are basically going to do whatever Texas decides to do. So if you can get someone at the very top of the Texas food chain to tell you what they're thinking constantly, you're doing something right.

If some of it was Texas propaganda, well hell, we get played quite a bit to satisfy agendas. Let's not deny that.

Ace · Jun 14, 2010

Shaggy said:

Ace said:

Shaggy said:

Ace said:

VJ said:

Chip Brown is simply repeating whatever he's told by the Texas AD that suits the school's needs at the time.

He floats the Big 12 to Pac-10 rumor to try and force Nebraska and Colorado out of the conference, then floats the "saving the Big 12" angle to make Texas look like the conquering hero. Meanwhile, the school winds up with a huge TV deal, still has the disparity in TV revenue that existed before, and looks like it's the one to thank for the Big 12 still being together. Not to mention there are now 2 less schools that Texas needs to share its TV revenue with. Oh and it can still start its own TV network.

It's actually quite brilliant by the Texas AD, but that doesn't mean what Chip Brown has done is great reporting. He simply repeats what he's told by the university. Congrats, that takes a lot of hard work to be a mouthpiece for one source.

There's a reason Rivals reporters often break news. It's because they get it straight from the athletic department and it stays on message. Same reason they get recruiting breaking news. Because it's positive news.
Click to expand...

Yeah. I don't know about Chip Brown, per se.

But slobbering about the breaking stories that -- at best -- come from one anonymous source that is floating something for his/her own purposes is not necessarily great, good or even accurate reporting.
Click to expand...

Let's not start drinking haterade. We would all love to be the Texas mouthpiece, because Texas is calling the shots here and that can't be denied.

Chip Brown is in a place that we would all dream to be in.
Click to expand...

Yeah. He's in a good spot. Not exactly Woodstein and Burnwood work, though.
Click to expand...

I won't disagree. But 5-6 schools are basically going to do whatever Texas decides to do. So if you can get someone at the very top of the Texas food chain to tell you what they're thinking constantly, you're doing something right.

If some of it was Texas propaganda, well hell, we get played quite a bit to satisfy agendas. Let's not deny that.
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I understand. And being the conduit to the big school is great, but it should be a tool in your arsenal. Not your whole arsenal.

(And I am speaking in general.)

Professor Snape · Jun 14, 2010

Shaggy said:

We would all love to be the Texas mouthpiece, because Texas is calling the shots here and that can't be denied.

Chip Brown is in a place that we would all dream to be in.
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or not

Shaggy · Jun 14, 2010

Ace said:

Shaggy said:

Ace said:

Shaggy said:

Ace said:

VJ said:

Chip Brown is simply repeating whatever he's told by the Texas AD that suits the school's needs at the time.

He floats the Big 12 to Pac-10 rumor to try and force Nebraska and Colorado out of the conference, then floats the "saving the Big 12" angle to make Texas look like the conquering hero. Meanwhile, the school winds up with a huge TV deal, still has the disparity in TV revenue that existed before, and looks like it's the one to thank for the Big 12 still being together. Not to mention there are now 2 less schools that Texas needs to share its TV revenue with. Oh and it can still start its own TV network.

It's actually quite brilliant by the Texas AD, but that doesn't mean what Chip Brown has done is great reporting. He simply repeats what he's told by the university. Congrats, that takes a lot of hard work to be a mouthpiece for one source.

There's a reason Rivals reporters often break news. It's because they get it straight from the athletic department and it stays on message. Same reason they get recruiting breaking news. Because it's positive news.
Click to expand...

Yeah. I don't know about Chip Brown, per se.

But slobbering about the breaking stories that -- at best -- come from one anonymous source that is floating something for his/her own purposes is not necessarily great, good or even accurate reporting.
Click to expand...

Let's not start drinking haterade. We would all love to be the Texas mouthpiece, because Texas is calling the shots here and that can't be denied.

Chip Brown is in a place that we would all dream to be in.
Click to expand...

Yeah. He's in a good spot. Not exactly Woodstein and Burnwood work, though.
Click to expand...

I won't disagree. But 5-6 schools are basically going to do whatever Texas decides to do. So if you can get someone at the very top of the Texas food chain to tell you what they're thinking constantly, you're doing something right.

If some of it was Texas propaganda, well hell, we get played quite a bit to satisfy agendas. Let's not deny that.
Click to expand...

I understand. And being the conduit to the big school is great, but it should be a tool in your arsenal. Not your whole arsenal.

(And I am speaking in general.)
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I hope you are speaking general, because we have no idea what's in Chip's arsenel. I'm sure a lot of his stuff is coming from his UT source, but all of it? Do we know?

FreddiePatek · Jun 14, 2010

Schad's a good guy. I can't cast stones because I don't really know the set of circumstances he was dealing with. However, I get the impression that all of ESPN's coverage on this matter consisted solely of phone calls and Web prowling with very little actual research. Heck, their "rumor central" was even posting updates based on anonymous posters on the Northwestern bulletin board. ESPN has consistently been 24 hours behind on the broad strokes of this story and that's something that can happen when you're only working phones.

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