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Joe Jackson, villain or visionary

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by Drip, Jul 2, 2009.

  1. Drip

    Drip Active Member

    Title pretty much speaks for itself. Should Joe Jackson be thought of as a villain because of the way he allegedly treated his kids or a visionary for realizing his offspring had talent?
  2. kingcreole

    kingcreole Active Member

    Villian. Earl Woods was a visionary.
  3. PeteyPirate

    PeteyPirate Guest

    How does it take a visionary to recognize that someone has talent? It's not like it was in dispute.
  4. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't say villain. Just another in the long list of people who sadly fell for our human instinct to want things that aren't really good for us, such as fame.
  5. Care Bear

    Care Bear Guest

    He beat the shit out of his kids. Villain.
  6. Huggy

    Huggy Well-Known Member

    Not available for comment:

  7. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    I've always thought that Sunday Papers was a pretty insightful song - visionary
  8. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    He was never convicted it court. You're making this up!
  9. Stoney

    Stoney Well-Known Member

    This ain't an either or question. Joe Jackson can fairly be put in both categories.
  10. Huggy

    Huggy Well-Known Member

    Certainly if you wanted to know about the gay politician.
  11. Captain_Kirk

    Captain_Kirk Well-Known Member

    Visionary --- hardly. A good businessman, a good entrepreneur, sure. But, manipulating your offspring for economic gain--he's hardly the first to have done that.

    Villain--if what he is said to have done to his children is true, he's much, much worse than a villain.
  12. forever_town

    forever_town Well-Known Member

    I hope to God the story about Joe Jackson being left out of Michael's will dispels any talk about children always forgiving their parents.

    Sometimes, it's better to not have certain people in your life. And sometimes, those people who need to be out of your life are the ones who gave you life.
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