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Joba Chamberlin

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Big Chee, Aug 23, 2007.

  1. shockey

    shockey Active Member

    it's a great, great debate. is a stud starter more important than a stud closer? i really don't know. i don't know that there's even a consensus in baseball.

    but having watched the yankees during mariano's reign, i feel he's been seen as the irreplaceable man. well, if joba can make for a smooth transition after mo, i may have just answered my own question. the bosox answered that question by putting papelbon back in the pen after swearing he was a starter.

    personally, i suppose i've talked myself into going with chamberlain as a closer.
     
  2. hockeybeat

    hockeybeat Guest

    The Yanks still have Chase Wright and Tyler Clippard in the system.

    If I were part of the Yankees brain trust, I would have Chamberlain
    replace Rivera. Clearly, they have an abundance of starting power arms. But they're going to need someone to close out games. Who better than a guy with a 100mph fastball and a slider that redefines the word nasty?
     
  3. Guy_Incognito

    Guy_Incognito Well-Known Member

    My point wasn't that they will have the best rotation in the league, but that they are tied to enough SPs, that they are unlikely to dip into the weak FA market. Mussina may be done, but he's signed. Igawa too (though I bet he becomes a decent pitcher one day, probably with another team, was he worse than Contreras?).
     
  4. Big Chee

    Big Chee Active Member

    I'm in the same camp. Mariano has really spoiled me as a Yankee fan. Although he's highly regarded, I don't think people realize how much of a void he'd leave as he nears the end of his career. He also came up as a starter, if I recall correctly, throwing a two hit complete game against the White Sox in his rookie season. But he moved into the pen as the 8th inning set up man for Wettland before becoming the full time closer. I'm just seeing a mirror image of ChamberlAin's use in the pen following the same pattern.
     
  5. Guy_Incognito

    Guy_Incognito Well-Known Member

    If he will be that good, I want him as a starter over a closer. If you offer me him as an old fashioned fireman (Rivera in '96, not anytime since), I'll think twice.
     
  6. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    At least the Yanks have realized that home grown talent (Jeter, Rivera, Williams, Posada, Pettitte) is the talent that you need to be the backbone of the team. The Giambinos and Damons are nice, but it's the O'Neills and the Tinos of the world are much better for the team when they are matched with the local talent.

    Now the Yanks have Wang, Hughes, Chamberlain, Cano, Duncan, Melky to build around. I think they will be collecting WS rings again in the next 2-3 years.

    http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/features/262804.html
     
  7. Guy_Incognito

    Guy_Incognito Well-Known Member

    The point is right, but Tino & O'Neill both came over in trades.
     
  8. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    The Yankees aren't like the Royals, though. They don't have to just go with what they are tied to. They have the resources to buy what they think they need, if they really believe their starting pitching is light. I think they've been smart. They didn't give in to the temptation to give away the pitchers like Hughes everyone wanted in deals. But holding onto these guys and hoping they develop into the future is different than counting on them to be the future. To just plug three of them into the rotation next year would scare the hell out of me when I am the GM who is under pressure to win year after year.
     
  9. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    True, but they were brought in to complement what was already there. Damon and Giambi were not brought in as compliments.

    When Jeter hands over the C, it would be much, much better if it was to a player brought up in the Yankee system and not someone who was imported (ARod).
     
  10. mike311gd

    mike311gd Active Member

    Who would you rather have: Johan Santana or Rivera in his prime? Conceivably, from what I've seen and read, that might be Chamberlain's two roads, and I don't just mean starter or closer; I'm talking potential.
     
  11. mike311gd

    mike311gd Active Member

    I don't think A-Rod will be an option for a captain's C. He's not going to be with Jeter when No. 2 retires.
     
  12. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    I think if you made a list of the greatest Yankees of the free agency era, you would see that most of them came through the farm.

    Reggie Jackson, Clemens, Lyle, O'Neill, Matsui and Winfield are the exceptions that actually played better than what was expected before they signed. I'm sure there are more, but that was off of the top of my head.
     
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