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James Harden to Rockets

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Elliotte Friedman, Oct 27, 2012.

  1. Iron_chet

    Iron_chet Well-Known Member

    You don't like Asian people either?
     
  2. sgreenwell

    sgreenwell Well-Known Member

    I agree. Durant and Harden kind of play the same position to me - that sort of "pure" small scoring forward - although they score in different ways. Hollinger mentioned it in his piece on the trade, but they probably need a Ron Artest or Bruce Bowen-type, someone who can shoot 3s and play really good defense, more than a double of Durant's skills. I think this trade might lower their peak for this year, but raise it for future years.
     
  3. Elliotte Friedman

    Elliotte Friedman Moderator Staff Member

    Is Harden really a franchise player? I think he's very good, but do you win anything with him as your max-salary guy?
     
  4. Norrin Radd

    Norrin Radd New Member

    He's not even Joe Johnson yet.

    So, no.
     
  5. workerB12

    workerB12 Member

    Yeah, but it still makes sense for Houston because they had a stable of "assets" and was doing nothing with them.
     
  6. ucacm

    ucacm Active Member

    Plus, the Rockets will have have great salary cap flexibility this offseason to put additional pieces around Harden.
     
  7. Bob Cook

    Bob Cook Active Member

    I wonder if Harden's substandard (for the most part) performance in the NBA finals made it easier to trade him. OKC did what most teams are crucified for NOT doing -- getting max value out of a player before they're nuts-deep in a contract situation. It's clear Harden was going to test the market, and someone is going to pay him the max (and not OKC), so why not trade him now?
     
  8. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    I don't see Harden as a franchise guy. Sort of like a Byron Scott on the Lakers or a Joe Dumars on the Pistons.
     
  9. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    I understand the move and I agree it probably makes the Thunder weaker, but I don't think teams want to be put in the position where they have three guys making the max and then have to get people to play for close to the minimum for the other spots. Teams like the Lakers and Heat can pull that off, but it gets tougher to do when you're in Oklahoma City.

    At least they got something for him.
     
  10. Mark2010

    Mark2010 Active Member

    Agreed. I just want to get this in, so somewhere down the road I've got it on file: when you give maximum contracts to players like that, then you wind up wondering a few years down the road why you are having salary cap problems.

    Decent player, but not a franchise guy.
     
  11. sgreenwell

    sgreenwell Well-Known Member

    The one thing that would make me less reluctant with Harden - With the way contracts are capped now, he can only get 4 or 5 years, and he's only 23. Even if he's not a superstar, he'll still probably be a highly productive player. The tough decision doesn't come until 2017 or 2018, after whatever initial contract he's going to get from the Rockets.
     
  12. qtlaw

    qtlaw Well-Known Member

    Presti knows what he's doing. He's flipped a high priced Green for Harden, now is flipping Harden for a very young Lamb (plus others.) This could work out well again for the Thunder. Lamb is a good looking player. Now Harden has matured but he's not a lead dog. Rockets desperately needed someone and got a borderline All-Star now but this looks like a Kenny Anderson/Marbury move (Look! We got a STAR!!) not a genuine contender building move. Somehow Lin/Asik/Harden just doesn't jive.
     
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