Jameis Winston, controversy, again

Way high. I think that both teams are probably overranked right now, but I definitely don't think ND is two touchdowns worse than FSU, even on the road.

 

Notre Dame gave up 43 to North Carolina.

 

If the odds on Pregame.com are to be believed, the FSU-ND game is still up on a few sportsbooks.

FSU -12 at The Greek, -11.5 at 5Dimes, -12 at BetOnline, -10 at Sportsbook.

I heard the line will drop to about 3 or 4 if Winston sits. I'd probably take ND either way.

 

In South Bend.

 

So?

FSU gave up 40-plus to a garbage-ass NC State team. You know how these games can go sometimes.

 

... that scored 0 against Clemson.

 

For the record, those are all online or offshore, not Vegas books.

 

Yeah, according to Vegas Insider, MGM/Mirage, Wynn, Golden Nugget and Stratosphere have all taken it down:

http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-football/odds/las-vegas/line-movement/notre-dame-@-florida-state.cfm/date/10-18-14/time/2000#AA

 

Do you actually bet these games?

 

.....that had every chance in the world to beat FSU......

 

What's the evidence that "He is actually very intelligent."? He's an exceptional college football player, the evidence of that is based on performance. The opportunities he's had to express himself publicly do not provide any proof he's either educated or intelligent. However, public speaking is not easy, being interviewed is not easy either. Though over the past 30 years we've all seen athletes interviewed and give press conferences and Winston appears to be in the bottom 25% of student athletes in expressing himself on camera, in print or in press conferences.

That he attends a University that has a competitive admissions policy is no evidence that he performed well or poorly in high school or SAT/ACT. Given his ability he could probably have found a way to go to any Division I program that offers athletic scholarships. That he maintains a high GPA at FSU could mean he does very well as a student. Its equally plausible, yes equally, that he (and FSU) cheat to get him there. He gets no benefit of the doubt as his off field performance shows someone without a conscience and that he repeats errors of judgment does show an inability to learn a simple lesson.
Does anyone think the cheating scandal at Notre Dame involving 5 students is unique and limited? North Carolina ring any bells?

Jameis Winston is a professional athlete, playing at the second highest professional league in the country, FBS. That he is a student of any kind is really besides the point. Put him on the payroll as a football teaching assistant and stop bullshitting the world with the student-athlete stuff.

 

Florida State has a competitive admissions policy? Since when?