Islamists taking over Iraq

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So what do you want, the U.S. to send a few battalions back in?

 

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No need.

Susan Rice is on it:

Spencer Ackerman ‏@attackerman 38m

US & Iraq "working together to roll back aggression" from ISIS, says @AmbassadorRice.

 

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Seriously. What exactly do you propose we do about it, YF? Re-invade Iraq all over again? Good luck selling that to the American people.

 

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We started a war for no good reason. We lost it. We should be but won't be ashamed of ourselves, but at least for now, and I suspect for some time to come, the country isn't up for wars, so there's that.

 

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He'll come up with a few slogans and catchphrases and ideas based upon some vague notions of FREEDOM!

 

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I don't lose any sleep worrying about Baghdad.

We have bigger problems here.

 

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You guys are funny. I didn't suggest any such thing.

Now, I'd like to think that when something like this happens:

Citizens in Baiji, a city of 200,000 about 110 miles south of Mosul, awoke Wednesday to find that government checkpoints had been abandoned and that insurgents, arriving in a column of 60 vehicles, were taking control of parts of the city without firing a shot, the security officials said.

That the troops we were going to have "right over the border" in Kuwait, or a drone, would blow the convoy -- and the militants -- to smithereens, but I think we all know that was never going to happen, despite the reassurances we were given:

Next year, after the withdrawal is complete, officials said, the United States and Iraq are likely to resume negotiations for a small American force that would train Iraqi officers, manage border tensions with the Kurds and help with counterterrorism.

Indeed, the basic theme of Mr. Biden’s visit is that the United States is not leaving Iraq behind. In addition to a diplomatic presence here, America will maintain a military footprint throughout the Persian Gulf region.

http://nyti.ms/Uu5WTJ


But, it's also funny, how like a lot of things that go wrong under President Obama, you guys always ask what we should do "now", as if the way the way out foreign policy has been run for the past five and a half years has nothing to do with where we are now.

But, hey, either way, I figured it was news, and worth discussing.

Islamists have taken over a huge part of Iraq, and are poised to take over more. They'll now have a base from which to operate. They've secured a huge cache of weapons. They've seized cash and gold according to accounts, and areas of oil production are threatened, which will likely hit all of us.

This is a pretty big deal. The Iraqi forces folded, apparently handing over their weapons, and changing out of their uniforms.

Ans, since it's a Sunni movement, the chance of Iran becoming involved, to help the Shiite majority, is high.

The entire region is a disaster.

 

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Well, it's just one Islamist who's taking over, per the thread title. Should be easy to stop.

 

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Yeah, the yellow cake uranium is in the Islamists' hands now.

 

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It took more than 20 years of bad foreign policy to get to the point at which we find ourselves now. Anybody who expected that it was going to be fixed in one presidential term -- or even two -- was delusional.

 

So is Chicago.
Think globally, act locally.

 

Let's hear from two of America's greatest states-people:

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003