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Interesting Tom Friedman Column

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Boom_70, Jul 4, 2007.

  1. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Tom Friedman=hondo?
     
  2. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    Well, well, well.

    So only Muslim leaders can remove the cancer.

    That means we can't.

    Next flight from Baghdad to New York departs at 6 p.m. I expect to see 140,000 soldiers on board. Welcome home, guys.
     
  3. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    If hondo had made the same observation that Friedman made in his column the thread would have been deleted as "too anti muslim."
     
  4. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    BT has a point there.

    I think, as individual Americans and as a collective single military unit, we can only communicate so much to any Muslim. To them, our culture is abhorrent. We can't understand that, because we believe, warts and all, we live in one of the greatest countries in the world. Personally, I'm not trading my citizenship for anywhere else - and I've been plenty of places.

    So why would "they" hate the freedom "we" enjoy?

    Well, the answer isn't that they're bad and we're good. It's more complex than that. Fortunately, Friedman usually does a nice job of pointing out those complexities.
     
  5. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    It is an interesting point that BT makes but the huge question is where does such a pull out leave Israel- a culture that many Mulslims find more abhorrent than ours?
     
  6. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    I didn't say anything about a pull out.

    But where would one leave Israel? I don't know. On the brink of regional war? Exactly where it's been since the Six Day War? I don't know.

    That's part of decisionmaking. Do we stay there for Israel's sake? Do we have a moral obligation to Israel? A secular obligation? Even so, if this was always about what's best for Israel...well, I'm not sure America's been playing into those odds much lately.
     
  7. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    My sense is that Israel was a major factor in decisions that have already been made on Middle East .
     
  8. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member

    My sense is that Israel was a major factor in decisions that have already been made on Middle East .
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    Beyond the shadow of a doubt.
     
  9. Pastor

    Pastor Active Member


    We should move Israel to Texas. There is enough land there. The region has some real heat. Let's setup an area in Texas, cropping away some of America, and call it Israel.

    If we are really looking out for their safety and they really want their own country, this would certainly be the best way to handle it.
     
  10. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member



    What if there is oil on the Israeli land? Can we move them to Oklahoma then?
     
  11. Pastor

    Pastor Active Member



    That really depends. I was thinking more of the ability to replicate the climate conditions of the current Israel. Maybe Arizona would work. What do you think about that? It would seem pretty easy to move some of those retirees out of the way (well, at least to Florida).
     
  12. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member



    Sorry Arizona is spoken for. We are moving Mexico there.
     
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