Ichiro 4000 Hits RT

Did they really make that big a deal about this?

They would have made such a bigger deal if he was actually going for 4,000 MLB hits.

 

Definitely, but they did treat it like a real accomplishment. It would have been like the NFL celebrating Warren Moon for reaching milestones if you include his CFL statistics. Except the level of football in the CFL may be even worse than the level of baseball in Japan. (Does JR read baseball threads. )

 

I did no such thing. The lack coast-to-coast travel was one of many factors cited to counter a statement that neither Rose nor Ichiro should be mentioned in the same grouping as Ty Cobb.

Nor have I argued that Ichiro's Japanese numbers should count toward his "major league" hit total. Of course they don't.

 

My apologies if that is true, but at that point, I' don't know what you are arguing. His accomplishments are clearly far less if you don't try to count in the numbers in Japan.

I guess perhaps your argument is on contract with the others trying to prop up Suzuki on this site.

 

I have no need to "prop up" Ichiro's accomplishments' whatever that means. I expect he'll get to 3,000 hits, be considered one of the greatest hitters of his generation, and make the Hall of Fame.

Accomplishments that stand on their own quite well.

 

Carlos Beltran definitely has had a better Major League Baseball career than Ichiro Suzuki.

 

If you don't think there has been some propping up of Suzuki's accomplishments on this thread, you're not paying attention.

That said, nobody is disputing the Hall of Fame is in his future.

 

Maybe by others, but not by me, which was your statement.

 

Goddamn straight.

 

You also said players in Cobb's era used gloves "the size of a baking oven."

That would be a really big glove.

 

I noticed that, too. I figured he was on a phone and it autocorrected from "baked potato."

 

Just FYI, the "no coast-to-coast travel" argument against old-time players is BS. Travel today is tons easier than it was in the days of Cobb and Ruth, especially the way major leaguers travel (no security lines, etc.).

I submit a big-league team's train trip from New York to St. Louis in, say, 1921 was just difficult and draining, if not more so, than a New York to LA flight for a team today.