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I would appreciate as many journalistic opinions as possible here

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Matt Foley, May 16, 2007.

  1. Matt Foley

    Matt Foley Member

    First off, I'm gonna let the cat out of the bag here and admit that I am not a journalist, I'm just a lowly grad student. I visit this board because it is the source of some of the funniest shit I have ever read in my entire life, and I thank all of you for that. Anyway, to get to the point, as some of you may or may not know, UCLA (my lovely alma mater) recently its 100th national championship as a school. I would think that this would be cause for celebration, but today an article appeared in the Orange County Register basically saying that UCLA's national championships don't mean anything. I was hoping that any of you with a little time on your hands might be able to read this and give me your journalistic opinion of it. Being a bruin alum, its pretty much impossible for me to look at this thing objectively, but it really seems like he is being a little too provocative with this article. So if any of have a little free time on your hands, I'd really appreciate your opinions. BTW, Orange County, CA is a major stronghold of USC fans, that may or may not play any part in this story, but I just that anyone reading this should know that. Thanks in advance.

  2. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Dear OCR,

    You are a fucktard.


    Newbie, SportsJournalists.com
  3. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    To be honest, Mr. Foley, sounds like Mr. Miller was just trying to be provocative.

    I assume it is an OPINION column and not an article. His opinion is that many of the titles UCLA won are in sports (like women's water polo) that few care about.

    That is true.

    I think the column is better than one praising UCLA for winning 100 titles in minor sports but, all in all, I'd probably have passed altogether and found another topic if I were on the clock.
  4. jgmacg

    jgmacg Guest

    His lede rhymes and he's wearing an Aloha shirt in his foto. That's as far as I got.
  5. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    A stupid opinion, as far as I'm concerned.
    One win over USC in football is worth more than 100 National championships? Idiotic.
    And, of course, he conveniently forgot to mention UCLA basketball ... the greatest college dynasty of all time.

    This is a columnist being contrary and coming across looking stupid or like a USC homer.
  6. Beef03

    Beef03 Active Member

    In the grand scheme of things what does 100 national championships mean? what effect do they have outside of recruiting and giving alums a nice big chub? It means nothing, zippo, zilch. Regardless of the sport. Sure you can be proud of it, but who cares? it's like asking does it matter if the Yankees add another World Series trophy to their case? Sure the fans care, but beyond that it doesn't mean a whole lot.
  7. slappy4428

    slappy4428 Active Member

    I thought Lowly and Grad Student were redundant...
  8. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Paging Cadet. Cadet, please come to the thread about a story disrespecting non-revenue athletics, thus including women's sports.

    Definitely a slap in the face to anyone who gives a damn about any sport other than football. And that shirt is ridiculous.
  9. novelist_wannabe

    novelist_wannabe Well-Known Member

    Journalistic opinions? Boy, are you barking up the wrong tree ... ;D
  10. The Hawaiian didn;t bother me.
    The rhyming lede did.
    And the column was as full of shit as the Christmas goose.
  11. JR

    JR Well-Known Member

    You might want to take that over to the simile thread on the Journalism board, son.
  12. Cadet

    Cadet Guest

    Wow, I got paged to a thread. Cool.

    I agree with the glossing-over of UCLA's men's basketball dynasty, and find the football-centric viewpoint laughable.

    That's right, laughable. I'm not mad, because this guy has clearly established himself as a dinosaur in the sports world. How many readers, how many football fans, how many USC fans, will read his column and realize how out of touch he is? Even if they agree with his fanboy assertions? (And I say this as a USC fan, BTW.)

    This column is an example of what's quickly becoming archaic in sports sections.

    I wonder if Miller also thinks the Olympics "don't count"? Because a university with as many national titles as UCLA is bound to have a few Olympians among its ranks. Even a student who is a diehard football fan would think it's pretty cool to sit next to an Olympian in his accounting class. Even if he doesn't follow water polo/golf/tennis/etc.

    UCLA is correct in celebrating its winning tradition, an effect that can permeate an entire school. People like winners. They flock to winners. They like to brag about winners. Seeing others performing to their potential can induce a copy-cat effect, be it on the field or in the classroom or research lab. I don't care if it's the football team or the water polo team, it's good to have winners around.

    I don't see this as a shot to women's athletics alone, because the disrespect was shown to all non-football sports. I'd be just as pissed if I were a men's volleyball player.

    I have long believed certain sportswriters operate solely from a place of ego, wielding their pen of a sword in an effort to correct the on-field injustices heaped upon their youth playing days. They take a successful athlete or team and rip them apart in print, trying to inflict the same pain felt while sitting the bench for the middle school basketball team. Perhaps for Miller it was the middle school water polo team.
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