Great NFL Drafts (for franchises)

93Devil · Feb 27, 2008

BYH said:

93Devil said:

Noll was a master when it came to the drafts. It was either the 1978 or 1979 team that had its entire roster made up of Steeler draft picks. He also was the first Steeler coach in a long time to value and hold on to the picks.

Pittsburgh was also smart enough to see how smart and dedicated the players they were drafting actually were. If you do not have the dedication to get decent grades in college, how can you be dedicated as a professional?

Almost to a man, the great players of the Steelers era seem to have a decent IQ. You really do not hear too many double negatives when listening to Ham, Lambert, Harris, Blount, Greene, White and the others. In fact, almost all of them are now successful businessmen. As Coach Knight said, but in another sport, smart does win.
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Yeah but can Terry Bradshaw spell cat if you spot him the c and the a?
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He just had a learning disability. Once that was corrected, rings started being collected.

Armchair_QB · Feb 27, 2008

JakeandElwood said:

Armchair_QB said:

This is how you build a Super Bowl winner:

In 1981 the Bears drafted Keith Van Horne, Mike Singletary, Ken Margerum and Todd Bell with their first four picks.

In 1982 they picked up Jim McMahon in round 1 and Dennis Gentry in round 3.

In 1983 seven of their first eight picks were Jimbo Covert and Willie Gault in round 1; Mike Richardson in round 2, Dave Duerson in round 3, Tom Thayer in round 4 and Richard Dent and Mark Bortz in round 8.

In 1984 their first two picks were Wilber Marshall and Ron Rivera and they added Shaun Gayle in round 10.
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The Fridge was a rookie drafted in '85 too I believe.
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He was. Kevin Butler was in that draft as well.

Jeff Fisher was a Bears pick in either 81 or 82 also.

Jake_Taylor · Feb 27, 2008

BYH said:

93Devil said:

Noll was a master when it came to the drafts. It was either the 1978 or 1979 team that had its entire roster made up of Steeler draft picks. He also was the first Steeler coach in a long time to value and hold on to the picks.

Pittsburgh was also smart enough to see how smart and dedicated the players they were drafting actually were. If you do not have the dedication to get decent grades in college, how can you be dedicated as a professional?

Almost to a man, the great players of the Steelers era seem to have a decent IQ. You really do not hear too many double negatives when listening to Ham, Lambert, Harris, Blount, Greene, White and the others. In fact, almost all of them are now successful businessmen. As Coach Knight said, but in another sport, smart does win.
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Yeah but can Terry Bradshaw spell cat if you spot him the c and the a?
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Bradshaw was smart enough to ride that dumb hick persona into the broadcast booth and at least one movie role.

Smasher_Sloan · Feb 27, 2008

93Devil said:

Noll was a master when it came to the drafts. It was either the 1978 or 1979 team that had its entire roster made up of Steeler draft picks. He also was the first Steeler coach in a long time to value and hold on to the picks.

Pittsburgh was also smart enough to see how smart and dedicated the players they were drafting actually were. If you do not have the dedication to get decent grades in college, how can you be dedicated as a professional?

Almost to a man, the great players of the Steelers era seem to have a decent IQ. You really do not hear too many double negatives when listening to Ham, Lambert, Harris, Blount, Greene, White and the others. In fact, almost all of them are now successful businessmen. As Coach Knight said, but in another sport, smart does win.

Also, look at every Super Bowl team's draft 3-4 years prior to them winning it all, and you will find a great draft.

Conversely, if you take a 2-14 or 3-13 team and look back at their drafts from the previous 3-4 seasons, you will see a ton of failed picks.

The NFL Draft is such an important day for every franchise. I am already geeked for Pittsburgh's.
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It was more than Noll. They had a kick-ass personnel department, headed up by Art Rooney Jr. In the early days, a scout named Bill Nunn would find players from small black colleges who were under the radar for a lot of teams. Noll is the guy who wanted Robert Newhouse in '72, but was talked into taking Franco Harris.

Whatever magic touch they had vanished in the '80s with some horrible choices.

outofplace · Feb 27, 2008

Smasher_Sloan said:

93Devil said:

Noll was a master when it came to the drafts. It was either the 1978 or 1979 team that had its entire roster made up of Steeler draft picks. He also was the first Steeler coach in a long time to value and hold on to the picks.

Pittsburgh was also smart enough to see how smart and dedicated the players they were drafting actually were. If you do not have the dedication to get decent grades in college, how can you be dedicated as a professional?

Almost to a man, the great players of the Steelers era seem to have a decent IQ. You really do not hear too many double negatives when listening to Ham, Lambert, Harris, Blount, Greene, White and the others. In fact, almost all of them are now successful businessmen. As Coach Knight said, but in another sport, smart does win.

Also, look at every Super Bowl team's draft 3-4 years prior to them winning it all, and you will find a great draft.

Conversely, if you take a 2-14 or 3-13 team and look back at their drafts from the previous 3-4 seasons, you will see a ton of failed picks.

The NFL Draft is such an important day for every franchise. I am already geeked for Pittsburgh's.
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It was more than Noll. They had a kick-ass personnel department, headed up by Art Rooney Jr. In the early days, a scout named Bill Nunn would find players from small black colleges who were under the radar for a lot of teams. Noll is the guy who wanted Robert Newhouse in '72, but was talked into taking Franco Harris.

Whatever magic touch they had vanished in the '80s with some horrible choices.
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Noll definitely gets a little too much credit for the way the Steelers drafted in the '70s. He had some tremendous help.

A big part of the problem in the '80s is that scouting simply got better overall and suddenly the Steelers did not have the same big advantage on most other teams that they had previously enjoyed.

outofplace · Feb 27, 2008

Jake_Taylor said:

BYH said:

93Devil said:

Noll was a master when it came to the drafts. It was either the 1978 or 1979 team that had its entire roster made up of Steeler draft picks. He also was the first Steeler coach in a long time to value and hold on to the picks.

Pittsburgh was also smart enough to see how smart and dedicated the players they were drafting actually were. If you do not have the dedication to get decent grades in college, how can you be dedicated as a professional?

Almost to a man, the great players of the Steelers era seem to have a decent IQ. You really do not hear too many double negatives when listening to Ham, Lambert, Harris, Blount, Greene, White and the others. In fact, almost all of them are now successful businessmen. As Coach Knight said, but in another sport, smart does win.
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Yeah but can Terry Bradshaw spell cat if you spot him the c and the a?
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Bradshaw was smart enough to ride that dumb hick persona into the broadcast booth and at least one movie role.
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Most of the acting career was from being friends with Burt Reynolds. That got him roles in Hooper, Cannonball Run and a cameo in one of the Smokey and the Bandit movies.

Not sure how he ended up in Failure to Launch, but pairing him up as Kathy Bates' husband was ...interesting casting.

patchs · Feb 28, 2008

Huggy said:

Dolphins had a decent draft in '83 with Marino (obviously), Reggie Roby, Mark Clayton and Anthony Carter.
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I'm still pissed at Shula for trading Carter to the Vikings for a bag of used footballs.
Duper, Clayton, Carter, if the Phins had that WR set, Marino would have won at least 1 SB.

pallister · Feb 28, 2008

I'm sure Marino would have found a way to screw that up -- then yelled at his teammates for it.

BYH · Feb 28, 2008

pallister said:

I'm sure Marino would have found a way to screw that up -- then yelled at his teammates for it.
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That was awesome.

Just for that, Pall, I will listen to Cemetary Gates instead of Sister Christian.

pallister · Feb 28, 2008

And drink Miller Lite instead of the Dew?

BYH · Feb 28, 2008

OK but I'm drawing the line at tattooing the likeness of Greg Luzinski on my torso.

Write-brained · Feb 28, 2008

The Chargers' decision to trade the Michael Vick No. 1 pick was the best choice they could have made. They picked up LT instead in the first round and then got Drew Brees with the first pick in the second round.

Too bad they fucked it up with Rivers a couple of years later.

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