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Grammar Hotline

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by 21, Feb 8, 2010.

  1. 21

    21 Well-Known Member

    Re: Grammar Crisis

    Does everyone know that??

    When can you use 'grey'? Someone must use it, or why would it be there?
     
  2. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Re: Grammar Crisis

    Grey seems more British and just greyer.
     
  3. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Re: Grammar Crisis

    Grey Flannel slacks are a much better look than Gray flannel pants.
     
  4. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Re: Grammar Crisis

    Boom gets it.
     
  5. txsportsscribe

    txsportsscribe Active Member

    Re: Grammar Crisis

    i think gray has a silent 3
     
  6. Wonderlic

    Wonderlic Member

    Re: Grammar Crisis

    Gray and grey are both acceptable English, but only 'gray' is correct AP style. 'Greyhound' when referring to the dog.

    It's like canceled and cancelled. Both correct from a language standpoint, but 'canceled' is AP style.

    Apparently, I'm the grammar/AP style police. 8)
     
  7. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Re: Grammar Crisis

    I know the AP style on gray. I just don't like certain vowels being bullied by the AP.
     
  8. 21

    21 Well-Known Member

    Re: Grammar Crisis

    Fortunately neither he nor his slacks are affiliated with AP.

    Wonderlic, I have great respect for anyone who can remember all the rules. My problem is I think I know all the rules, until I realize (over and over) that I have completely made them up along the way.
     
  9. fishwrapper

    fishwrapper Active Member

    Re: Grammar Crisis

    Personal issue:
    I think "that" should be stricken from professional prose.
    It can be almost always eliminated from the sentence and moves the author back into the active voice:

    From the NYT blog, lede item on their website right now:
    On the death of John Murtha. The posting is by Kate Phillips, who is a fantastic writer and often holds down the NYT's Politics and Govt. blog:

    http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/08/congressman-murtha-dies/?hp
    It's superfluous and -- more times than not -- hurts the strength of the statement (not that it does here).
    Rant over.
     
  10. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Re: Grammar Crisis

    I think we get overzealous removing "that." Sometimes, removing it hurts the rhythm of the sentence in the voice in our head.
     
  11. 21

    21 Well-Known Member

    Re: Grammar Crisis

    Agree completely with Fishwrapper. Some years ago Dooley pointed (that) out and I never forgot it...and wondered why no one had ever told me before.

    Although Rick makes a good point about rhythm; sometimes you have to go with the impact of the language over the rule of law.
     
  12. fishwrapper

    fishwrapper Active Member

    Re: Grammar Crisis

    That voice in your head? There are professionals for that.
     
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