FRAUDS! A closer look: Here's a complete list of Big 10 football wins this year

Re: FRAUDS! A closer look: Here's a complete list of Big 10 football wins this y

FRAUD has a long and storied history at SportsJournalists.com, as you know. Technically, you may be correct, but the rant isn't as fun that way.

 

Another thread about the BCS losses would be quite fun as well. I don't think any other BCS conference which received a spot in the National Championship game, as well as an additional BCS berth, can top the Big 10's App State-North Dakota State exacta. But maybe someone will come up with one.

 

Hey, when did Troy, Florida Atlantic, and Louisiana-Lafayette join the SEC? Because between them, they played seven SEC games.

Let me play!! Here's some of the SEC's impressive victories:

GEORGIA
Oklahoma State
Western Carolina
Troy

AUBURN
Kansas State
New Mexico State
Tennessee Tech

ARKANSAS
Troy
North Texas
Chattanooga
Florida International

FLORIDA
Western Kentucky
Troy
Florida Atlantic

KENTUCKY
Eastern Kentucky
Kent State
Louisville
Florida Atlantic

LSU
Virginia Tech
Middle Tennessee State
Tulane
Louisiana Tech

MISSISSIPP
Memphis
Louisiana Tech
Northwestern State

VANDERBILT
Richmond
Eastern Michigan
Miami OH

ALABAMA
Western Carolina
Houston
(and don't forget its impressive loss at home to Louisiana-Monroe!)

MISSISSIPPI STATE
Tulane
Gardner-Webb
UAB

SOUTH CAROLINA
Louisiana-Lafayette
South Carolina State
North Carolina

TENNESSEE
Southern Miss
Arkansas State
Louisiana-Lafayette

I'm not going to count them up, but on a glance it looks like more SEC games against I-AA teams than Big Ten games against I-AA teams. Western Carolina, Tennessee Tech, Chattanooga, Eastern Kentucky, Northwestern State, Richmond, Western Carolina again, Gardner-Webb, South Carolina State -- I may be wrong about the status of some of these schools, but they all sound like lower echelon to me!

 

Headbutt: Yeah, FSU beat Alabama. But beating a 6-6 SEC team on a neutral field impresses me no more than Virginia Tech beating a 7-5 East Carolina team to open the season.

 

TSP - I count five BCS wins.. same as Big 10 (though a little better quality)

FRAUDS!

 

Someone asked for context? Here you go:

ACC non-conference victories:
Boston College-Army, UMass, Bowling Green, at Notre Dame
Clemson-La. Monroe (pesky, just ask Bama); Furman, Central Michigan, South Carolina
Wake Forest-Army, Navy, Vanderbilt. Loss to nebraska
Florida State-UAB, at Colorado, Alabama. Loss to Florida
Maryland-Villanova, at FIU, at Rutgers. Loss to West Virginia
NC State-Wofford, at East Carolina. Losses to UCF, Louisville
Virginia Tech-East Carolina, Ohio, William & Mary. Loss at LSU
Virginia-Pittsburgh, at Middle Tennessee, Connecticut. Loss at Wyoming.
Georgia Tech-at Notre Dame, Samford, Army. Loss to Georgia.
North Carolina-James Madison. Losses at East Carolina, at South Florida, vs. South Carolina.
Miami-Marshall, FIU, Texas A&M. Loss at Oklahoma.
Duke-at Northwestern. Losses vs. UConn, at Navy, at Notre Dame.

7-12 vs. BCS schools (not counting Notre Dame). 7 non-Division I victories. 2 losses vs Conference USA

SEC
Georgia-Oklahoma State, Western Carolina, Troy, at Georgia Tech
Tennessee-Southern Miss, Arkansas State, ULaLa. Loss at California
Florida-Western Kentucky, Troy, Florida Atlantic, Florida State
Kentucky-Eastern Kentucky, Kent State, Louisville, Florida Atlantic
South Carolina-ULaLa, S.C. State, at North Carolina. Loss vs. Clemson.
Vanderbilt-Richmond, Eastern Michigan, Miami (Ohio). Loss to Wake Forest
LSU-Virginia Tech, Middle Tennessee, at Tulane, Louisiana Tech
Auburn-Kansas State, New Mexico State, Tennessee Tech. Loss to South Florida
Arkansas-Troy, North Texas, Chattanooga, FIU
Miss. State-at Tulane, Gardner-Webb, UAB. Loss at West Virginia.
Alabama-Western Carolina, Houston. Losses vs. Florida State, UL-Monroe (heh).
Ole Miss-at Memphis, Louisiana Tech, Northwestern State. Loss vs. Missouri.

7-7 vs. BCS competition. 9 non-Division I-A wins. 6-0 vs. Conference USA. 11-1 vs. Sun Belt.

Pac-10

USC-Idaho, at Nebraska, at Notre Dame
Arizona State-San Jose, Colorado, San Diego State
Oregon State-Utah, Idaho State. Loss at Cincinnati.
Oregon-Houston, at Michigan, Fresno State
UCLA-BYU. Losses at Utah, vs. Notre Dame
Arizona-Northern Arizona. Losses at BYU, vs. New Mexico
California-Tennessee, at Colorado State, Louisiana Tech
Stanford-San Jose State. Losses vs. TCU, Notre Dame
Wazzu-San Diego State, Idaho. Loss at Wisconsin.
Washington-at Syracuse, Boise State. Loss at Hawaii.

5-2 vs. BCS (not counting Notre Dame). 2 wins vs. non-Division I-A teams. 4-4 vs. Mountain West. 6-1 vs. Western Athletic.

Continue discussion.

 

Thank you, TSP, for the illustration. There's some definate "pot calling kettle" hypocrisy to the SEC fanboys bitching about Ohio State's non-conference schedule. In fact, I daresay the SEC has an even MORE PATHETIC list of patsies than Poindexter's Big 10 List (Gardner Webb, Chattanooga, North Tx, Ark. St., Western Carolina, Richmond, Troy, Kent State, Tenn Tech, Western Kentucky, Northwestern State, etc.... are you kidding me?). Yes, OSU scheduled Akron and Youngstown St. (and a Pac 10 team), and LSU scheduled Middle Tennessee State, Tulane and La Tech. BOTH guilty.

News Flash for Poindexter: its not the Big 10 that has learned to game the BCS system by scheduling non-conf patsies, its EVERY BCS conference. The SEC has no wins over the Big 10 this year and vice versa because they won't play each other if it means going to the other's house, its much easier to load up on home games against the nearest Sun Belt or MAC patsy.

 

[giggling at the fanbois trying to convince everybody else their team got robbed]

 

I have no dog in this fight, but the popcorn is delicious. Want some?

 

The thing is, the BCS will make the matchups vs. the Richmonds, Northwestern States, Indiana States, Gardner-Webb's, et al even MORE attractive in the future. If you can schedule eight home games, bring in three patsies, beat an average BCS foe, and run the table (or just about) in your conference, you make the BCS title game. Just ask OSU. Or Kansas.

You will see even LESS AND LESS Ohio States vs. Texas (like last year) or Ohio State vs. USC (like next year) or LSU vs. Virginia Tech. Why in the world would you play a team that can knock you right out of title contention if you don't have to?

You'll hear the stupid argument, "Well, this just makes the regular season mean something" over and over again. Meanwhile, it means something to this pantywaist schools who get a paycheck to get clobbered while we see hardly any meaningful matchups. Over in basketball, where the regular season supposedly means nothing, you get a Top 10 matchup about every night.

 

I have no problem with anything anyone has posted here. Rather would pick through the meat than just say that OSU should be there because they have one loss.

 

Indeed. Although I'll throw in, as a USC fan, that the Trojans beat Idaho, Notre Dame and Nebraska for their 3 non-conference wins.

It's all relative.