Football agate

Never had to do it, but I would think fumble return would be appropriate, since it is technically a fumble.

 

But it's not from scrimmage, so how can you count it if you don't count yardage gained on conversions in the regular stats?

 

Here's how we do it:
Field goal
KC — Creole 42 field goal, 3:30

Safety
KC — Safety (John Jackson tackle Ron Smith in end zone), 1:10
or
KC — Safety (Tom Blake fumble out of end zone), 4:19
or
KC — Safety (Perry Johnson kick ball out of end zone), 5:39
or
KC — Safety (Bill Taylor holding in end zone), 7:33

 

A blocked kick isn't a fumble. It would be listed as '85 blocked field goal return,' so it would be the same for a blocked extra point.

I think I've seen it listed as simply: K - Defensive two-point conversion, probably because actually describing the play would be excessively long (K - 85 return of intercepted two-point pass?). And if you look a line above, you'll see what kind of conversion was attempted, because you'll have 'pass failed,' 'run failed' or 'kick blocked' in parentheses.

F_B, you may have a point about the yardage, but anyone who knows the rules is going to know that yardage didn't count in the totals. Anyone who doesn't know the rules isn't going to go into that level of detail, I wouldn't think.

For safeties, I always included a description of the play, even if it was a 'team safety.' 'Ball snapped out of end zone' or 'Jones intentional grounding in end zone' works just fine. And of course, I always hoped for opportunities to put a 2 in the box score.

And doggies, we're not in a perfect world, but that doesn't mean we stop trying to be perfect. And we have the discussions now so that we know what to do when the situation arises.

 

I don't know what the problem would be with:

F - Smith 1 run (kick blocked), 5:20
K - Johnson 85 return, 5:20

 

If the reader wasn't paying too much attention, they might think Johnson returned the kickoff 85 yards for a touchdown. I would make read like this:
F - Smith 1 run (kick blocked), 5:20
K - Johnson 85 blocked PAT return, 5:20

 

Yeah, that's the thing. Field goals and safeties are marked up front in the agate, so if you see

ASS -- Johnson 70 fumble return

then you'd assume it was a touchdown. Defensive two-point conversion? AP isn't helpful.