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Ed Graney at the R-J

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by blondebomber, Jul 24, 2006.

  1. blondebomber

    blondebomber Member

    I know there are a lot of Vegas posters on this board. I said on a previous thread I was going to give new Review-Journal columnist Ed Graney some time to find his Vegas voice before forming an opinion on the hire ... I have to say, given the "national search" for a such a position, I'm less than impressed. Am I missing something?
  2. Left_Coast

    Left_Coast Active Member

    After less than two months? Give the guy SOME time.
  3. spinning27

    spinning27 New Member

    Jeez, not quite sure what you're expecting there. Graney is solid. He's never been a columnist before. In time, he'll do well.

    Heard that they moved Carp off the UNLV hoops beat. That should make you happy Bomber.
  4. blondebomber

    blondebomber Member

    Uh, two months is a measurement of SOME time. I'm guessing you think I should give him MORE time. I'll buy that. Maybe I should.

    A byline count in our system shows 31 pieces. I'd say that's a decent sampling to get an idea on a guy. But I'll wait a little longer.
  5. Frank_Ridgeway

    Frank_Ridgeway Well-Known Member

    Blondebomber, I don't know how many times you've moved, but it's hard to get a feel for a city in two months, and without that it's going to be hard be your best, whether you're running a desk or writing a column -- aside from the lack of local knowledge, the basic quality will suffer while you try to catch up. I've tried the immersion method -- books, excessive driving around, dining in a different part of the city every day -- and still it takes awhile to get my bearings, certainly more than two months. And, as many writers have discovered, there is a big difference between writing a column a week and writing three or four every week, and that takes an adjustment, too. A professional journalist should give him at least a year to get acclimated. As for how much time the readers give him, well, that is out of the columnist's hands -- but in any case, the people who hired him did so with the knowledge that he'd be a newcomer in town. Perhaps they took a longer-range view in hiring an outsider, rather than promoting someone who knows the city and the people in it but is lacking in other areas.
  6. blondebomber

    blondebomber Member

    I recognize that. Just spurring a discussion on a major recent opening that had intrigued many people when it became available and when it was filled.
  7. Left_Coast

    Left_Coast Active Member


    And blonde, if you're going to do this for Ed, would you do the same for Hawk in the SE role? I'd say no, that he (and Ed) need minimum six months before you can come to conclusions about how they are doing. Though I suspect you have some opinions about Hawk.
  8. fmrsped

    fmrsped Active Member

    And I'm asking this seriously, what have those 31 bylines consisted of? UNLV summer stuff, some Team USA stuff?

    I'm trying to think of what else he's had to go on.
  9. Left_Coast

    Left_Coast Active Member

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  10. fmrsped

    fmrsped Active Member

    Thanks LC. ... I could have done that myself, except I'm a lazy bastard. Sorry.
  11. blondebomber

    blondebomber Member

    See, that's where you an I will disagree. Hawk has been planning on his role as sports editor for YEARS. His curve should be much quicker than Graney's. Plus, Hawk knows the lay of the land. He knows the beats. He knows the city. He knows his staff blows. The only thing he doesn't know is that he's less than a pedestrian writer himself. I pray he's a much better manager.
  12. blondebomber

    blondebomber Member

    The fact this thread has generated reposnses and discussion shows it's a topic people are interested in.

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