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DOMA unconstitutional (5-4); Court punts on gay marriage (no standing)

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Dick Whitman, Jun 26, 2013.

  1. deskslave

    deskslave Active Member

    Just do what the rest of us are doing, please.
     
  2. Humungus

    Humungus Member

    kennedy and sotomayer wanted to rule on the merits, not on a technicality.
     
  3. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Did you hear about the jurisprudence fetishist? He got off on technicality...
     
  4. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    So if people get married in California, that is recognized as a marriage in every state now, yes?
     
  5. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    No, I don't think so. It is recognized by the federal government.
     
  6. Humungus

    Humungus Member

    in terms of receiving federal benefits, yes --i believe.
     
  7. dog eat dog world

    dog eat dog world New Member

    Killed the other LEGAL thread by SCOTUS? No credibility whatsoever.
     
  8. deskslave

    deskslave Active Member

    Yeah, if a marriage is legal under state statute, the federal government has to recognize it. Alabama can't be required to honor a Vermont gay marriage, w/r/t tax codes, inheritance, etc. But the federal government now is.

    Hey, states rights, right?

    BTW, Google "gay" -- or perhaps "gay marriage" if you're concerned about work filters.
     
  9. AtticusFinch

    AtticusFinch Member

    I believe that's correct as well.
     
  10. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    It was killed because it's obvious what you're doing. So knock it off. Please.
     
  11. Bob Cook

    Bob Cook Active Member

    This piece, from March, explains pretty well what happens now. Basically, marriage equality chaos.

    http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/03/chaos-looms-if-court-strikes-down-doma-and-punts-prop-8/63610/

    In the opinion on Prop 8, I wonder how Roberts wrote this with a straight face:

    "This is an essential Opinion of the Court limit on our power: It ensures that we act as judges, and do not engage in policymaking properly left to elected representatives."

    Any judge is an "activist judge" because he or she has to make a decision on the legality of something. As a Supreme Court judge, you ARE "making policy," and it's stupid for these judges to pretend they don't. If we didn't need judges to interpret the law, we wouldn't have them. Does Roberts think he didn't "make policy" by basically overturning the critical part of what Congress passed numerous times in the Voting Rights Act?
     
  12. dog eat dog world

    dog eat dog world New Member

    And we know what this is going, breaking the rules. All I'm saying is if you want to have rules, then honor them or throw them all out. You can't be selective and have integrity. Have this discussion but have it in the same place the voting rights act is being discussed.
     
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