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Did steroids really change baseball?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by BB Bobcat, Aug 9, 2010.

  1. Elliotte Friedman

    Elliotte Friedman Moderator Staff Member

    Seems pretty silly to claim the HR spike was about juiced baseballs without proving the current balls are different/less likely to be hit out.
     
  2. CarltonBanks

    CarltonBanks New Member

    completely agree
     
  3. HejiraHenry

    HejiraHenry Well-Known Member

    A fine point, sir.
     
  4. BB Bobcat

    BB Bobcat Active Member

    The reason you don't have to is because, if you saw my earlier point, HRs now haven't been reduced since 93/94.

    We wanna believe they have because those 3 people who were hitting 60 are gone, but across the board, HRs jumped in 93/94 and they've been steady ever since.
     
  5. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    No they haven't. A drop from 1.17 to 1.00 per game is 826 home runs per year, overall, across baseball.
     
  6. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    Nefi Perez
     
  7. Tarheel316

    Tarheel316 Well-Known Member

    We can debate this forever but no one is ever going to be able to prove that steroids cause home runs.
     
  8. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    The 2005-2009 average was about 0.1 per game lower than the previous five-year span. Not as big as the 93-94 jump, but still significant.
     
  9. BB Bobcat

    BB Bobcat Active Member

    And 06 was higher than 02. Single year variations are not as significant.

    That 93/94 jump was huge, and sustained. That's tough to explain.
     
  10. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    It's not that they " cause" homeruns, they allow you to recover faster, increase strength and countless other little advantages, which in turn would allow you to be a better player.

    It's ridiculous to say steroids don't help, it's also ridiculous to say they turn a player into a stud. You have to have a hell of a lot of talent to start with
     
  11. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Exactly. Steroids can't turn a stiff into a superstar, but they can make a good player into a great one. Anybody who can't understand the benefit of getting stronger and gaining an increased ability to recover is just ingorant, willfully or otherwise.
     
  12. BB Bobcat

    BB Bobcat Active Member

    More strength is better. I agree with that. Abso-freakin-lutely.

    I'm simply talking about degrees. Because it impossible to know...

    a) how much added strength is attributed to steroids and how much to working out and
    b) how much added muscle in various parts of the body translates into added bat speed...

    I choose to believe that the impact of steroids is impossible to know, and that most likely the conventional wisdom over-rates that impact.

    That's all.
     
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