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Declassified report: Two nuclear bombs nearly wiped out North Carolina in 1961

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Steak Snabler, Jun 12, 2014.

  1. Steak Snabler

    Steak Snabler Well-Known Member

    :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

    Supposedly would have been worse than Hiroshima:


    The incident was supposedly first detailed in a book that came out last year, but this is first I've heard of it.
  2. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    This was just around the time Obama "was born" in "Hawaii" too, if I'm not mistaken.

    It's all coming together now.
  3. Jake_Taylor

    Jake_Taylor Well-Known Member

    This is what happens when you let Gomer Pyle work on military planes.
  4. Mystery Meat II

    Mystery Meat II Well-Known Member

    Impact map based on the yield and it being a groundburst (don't have the exact location of where the bomb landed, but at this size it's probably not that big a deal): http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/?&kt=3800&lat=35.3848841&lng=-77.9927651&airburst=0&hob_ft=0&ff=55&zm=10

    Goldsboro wiped off the map, Mount Olive takes damage and finds itself in a pickle, Depending on the winds, Raleigh, Wilmington, Fayetteville, Greensville or Rocky Mount could get more than 1000 rad of radiation per hour after the blast, which would be almost certain death for those exposed. Lesser but still strong levels or radiation could affect Norfolk, Greensboro, Charlotte and Myrtle Beach, again depending on the winds.

    Because it would have been a groundblast, as opposed to an airblast, the fallout produced would be a lot higher and the immediate impact around ground zero would be greater, but the radius of blast and heat damage wouldn't be as big.
  5. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Fortunately, as it turns out North Carolina didn't become a wasteland until 50 years later when Duke Energy got a governor elected and was allowed to pour coal ash into water all over the state.
  6. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    This was made up to distract us from Benghazi.
  7. mateen

    mateen Member

    The book is Command and Control, by Eric Schlosser, who also wrote Fast Food Nation (and who also happens to be Robert Redford's son-in-law). The book is excellent, although absolutely terrifying. It centers on an incident in which a nuclear missile blew up in Arkansas in 1980 after a mechanic dropped a wrench and accidentally punctured the fuel tank; the warhead didn't go off, but the explosion still destroyed the missile site and killed two people. The book also relates a litany of near-miss accidents involving nuclear weapons during the Cold War era which makes it seem amazing any of us are alive now.
  8. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    That was something like four days after the inauguration. How tough would that have been as a start for a young president?
  9. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member


    The pilot rode one of the bombs to safety
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  10. micropolitan guy

    micropolitan guy Well-Known Member

    Like Twinkies and cockroaches, Jesse Helms would have survived.
  11. Sam Mills 51

    Sam Mills 51 Active Member

    The two bombs are embedded about 10 miles north of my hometown. Knew they were dangerous, but the government is just now disclosing more details of how the weapons ended up where they did.

    Had many more problems - i.e., needed EOD - in an overseas base where I was stationed as a young one back in the day. Lots of WWII weapons, too many of which had not discharged. Went to middle school next to a hill full of them, which is why they locked off access.
  12. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    Plus in 1961 we didn't have the virtual saturation radar, satellite and GPS coverage of the entire globe we have today, and nuclear bombs going off about 100 miles in from the Atlantic coast would have ignited instant suspicion they had been launched by Soviet missile subs just offshore (their submarine missile program was never as advanced as the U.S., but they did have some subs capable of launching missiles -- see the "Hotel II" class).

    Given the itchy-trigger-finger nature of the U.S. brass at the moment, and JFK just getting settled into the White House, it's hard to imagine some of those hell-bent-for-leather types wouldn't have been storming into the Oval Office and shouting at him to nuke out Moscow just in case it had indeed been a surprise sub attack.

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