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classic herm edwards

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by shockey, Jan 1, 2007.

  1. BYH

    BYH Active Member

    Herm sucked long before this. And he would have sucked if they'd put up 100.
     
  2. sportschick

    sportschick Active Member

    Yea! The first BYH-A_F battle in months. I'm getting my popcorn.
     
  3. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Of course not. You're missing the point.

    Trent Green has been one of the most reliable QBs in the NFL the past six years. Three 4,000 yard seasons in a row heading into this year, and QB ratings in the mid 90s year after year. You don't bench that guy if he's available to play, for Damon Huard, because Huard had to step in and caught lightening in a bottle.
     
  4. BYH

    BYH Active Member

    You do when that guy is 36 and still shaky from the injury.

    It's the NFL. It's all about lightning in a bottle. Would you have said bench Tom Brady for Drew Bledsoe in 2001 because Brady caught lightning in a bottle?

    Not saying Huard is Brady. Saying when you've got a hot hand and a team is clicking and performing beyond expectations, you ride it.
     
  5. Almost_Famous

    Almost_Famous Active Member

    Take someone's leftovers and barely get in the playoffs? Guy, no coach builds teams in the NFL. None hang around long enough. You're crazy.

    Huard was great? He had a good run. No doubt. But when your starter - a 4,000 yard passer - is ready, and your backup just had this line against Miami:
    QB Rating, 57.0 15-38 201 yds back when miami sucked ... then go back to your starter. have to.

    Saban didn't dupe Miami? Uh, how many clips are there saying he didn't want the job, he wanted to stay in Miami, etc, etc? This is what ALL COACHES DO. Not to the extent of Saban, but most coaches say they don't want a job ... and then take it. (Saban gets killed for his actual exit, maybe one of the worst ever.)
     
  6. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Hindsight's 20/20. Should they have benched Green when he was 35? Look at the season he had last year. You don't prematurely sit a QB because you can't predict when he's going to show his age.

    The "shaky" part is hindsight, too. He was cleared to play. You HAVE to play a guy who's been that reliable, if he is cleared to play. If he had performed better, you wouldn't be saying they shouldn't have played him. It'd be a non-discussion. And at the time it was a no brainer. There isn't a reasonable judge of talent in the NFL who would have gambled on Damon Huard's luck over Trent Green's track record--the severity of the hit he took included in the decision. Damon Huard is not guiding a team with no receivers to a championship.

    The Brady analogy doesn't make sense. Brady wasn't a 10-year journeyman, with marginal skills, when he stepped in for Bledsoe. If he was, the Pats would have been insane for thinking a donkey had suddenly turned into a thoroughbred.
     
  7. broadway joe

    broadway joe Guest

    BYH, you insist on seeing the glass half empty when it comes to Herm, the Mets, Carlos Beltran and just about anything having to do with New York. To you, they deserve no credit, only blame. That's fine. Have fun with that.

    As for why the Chiefs didn't forsee that the Colts would stack the box to stop LJ, I'm sure they did. It's just that they don't do anything else well enough to beat Indy. It wasn't a matter of not preparing a Plan B. It was simple -- if KC could run on the Indy defense, they had a chance. If they couldn't, they had no chance.
     
  8. BYH

    BYH Active Member

    Bill Cowher and Jeff Fisher would disagree with you.

    Fact: The Jets fell apart as soon as most of Parcells' leftovers were gone. And Herm couldn't wait to get out of town. The same thing will happen in KC. Guaranteed.

    Your mistake here is regarding Trent Green as a 4,000-yard passer...in Herm Edwards' offense. Only once did a QB throw for more than 3,000 yards--never mind 4,000 yards--under Herm in NY. Trent's aerial accomplishments went out the door as soon as Herm and his plodding attack took over.

    I never said Saban didn't dupe Miami. He did. But he's a complete piece of shit, and has been known as such for about as long as he's coached. Herm always made it clear what a good man he was. When he's just the same as everyone else.

    Saban's a complete shithead, but he never painted himself as anything other than that.
     
  9. BYH

    BYH Active Member

    Hey, I heart NY. But the Mets, Beltran and Herm are what they are. Sorry if that offends as a fan of said folks.
     
  10. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Admit it, fucker. You hate NY. And you hate America.
     
  11. Oz

    Oz Well-Known Member

    HELLO?!?!?!? YOU PLAY ... TO WIN ... THE GAME!!!
     
  12. BYH

    BYH Active Member

    I hate tall-tale telling sacks of crap who say they heroically saved a woman from a brutal verbal barrage and insist on posting pictures in their message board signatures.

    Sound familiar, fuckface? :D :D :D
     
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