Chris Carpenter: Hall of Famer?

Quit it with the Cy Young schtick. Winning one helps a lot, finishing top 3 not so much. What you do in MVP/Cy Young awards isn't everything or close to it.

Off the top of my head for just pitchers for guys who given 4 more seasons of sub-3.5 ERA, 15+ wins would be around the level of Carpenter given the same four years ... Johan Santana, Bartolo Colon, Barry Zito, Tim Wakefield, Tim Hudson, Derek Lowe, Javier Vazquez, Mark Buehrle, Roy Oswalt ... that's all I can think given five minutes. Those are also just the older guys. There are a handful of guys in their 20s or early 30s who have done enough to be worth consideration given four more years.

 

It is still ridiculous.

 

In other news, Beej, Darryl Hall has a new album out!

 

All right! I'm living in Dreamtime!

 

If Brook Jacoby were to come out of retirement, hit 400 more home runs, and finish with a career batting average of .287, are his two All-Star seasons enough to get him into the HOF?

I'm not saying he WILL hit 400 more home runs or have a career batting average of .287, but for the sake of argument, let's say he does. Are two all-star seasons enough?

 

Both have the same chance of reaching the levels submitted.

 

USF won that day and is 4-1?

But if Rick Mirer has eight more 30-TD seasons, he can write his speech for Canton.

 

We don't always agree, but this was awesome.

 

I DRIVE A DODGE STRATUS!

 

Upon further review ... This Carpenter HOF election, on the lottery-like chance that it does happen, is a bare minimum of 20 years in the future.

I'll meet you on that thread unless I have to take care of my grandkids. My son is 11.

 

i move we do away with all conjecture on hof candidates at least until, you know, their career is over. it's asking folks to accept unlikely hypotheticals that gets folks riled up to begin with. a guy like carpenter is so very far from being a legit hof candidate those who offer him or others of this ilk up for debate is just asking to be ridiculed.

why even start such a premature discussion? why put us in a position to roll our eyes or mock a guy who has just had a wonderful post-season performance?

 

Not before Powlus gets in