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Brian France at APSE convention

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Speedway, Jun 27, 2008.

  1. playthrough

    playthrough Moderator Staff Member

    Some of those reps give "PR" a very bad name. There are good ones but many others live to find reasons for you NOT to get what you need. And the problem is that NASCAR has ceded all control to them. The story I always relay to friends who ask about various motorsports and accessibility is how if you get in touch with the NHRA and ask for help reaching a driver, they'll give you the driver's PR rep but say "if he/she doesn't help, call us back." NASCAR will give you the driver rep then throw up their hands. IndyCar is also very helpful (though Danica is NASCAR-esque for accessibility).

    Then again, as France said, I'm sure they had a blast helping an NYT writer with his blog. That wouldn't impress me at an SE convention, showing your willingness to bend over backwards for one of the largest papers in the country. Tell me how you helped a 6,000-circ daily get a good story with a big-name driver.
     
  2. Moderator1

    Moderator1 Moderator Staff Member

    Anybody who covers NHRA and doesn't have a full list of drivers' cell phones isn't trying very hard.
    The Access Kings (and Queens).
    No one is better.
    France wants to talk about access, he ought to have all the PR folks hang out at the NHRA for a while.
     
  3. JBHawkEye

    JBHawkEye Well-Known Member

    Attendance is a little more than 100. A lot of people talking about the future of the industry, and how bleak it is in some places.

    Still, it's been interesting. I'm glad I came here.
     
  4. Rockbottom

    Rockbottom Well-Known Member

    Well, sure, NHRA has *great* access ... because it is a fringe sport. I bet the hacks that follow the PBA have Pete Weber Jr. on speed-dial, too. I think I have a list of the World's Strongest Man home addresses here somewhere, too ...

    Point is, for the MASSIVE sport that it is (and I am not particularly a fanboi), NASCAR gets the writers closer to the action and the participants than any other major sport.

    rb
     
  5. Sam Mills 51

    Sam Mills 51 Well-Known Member

    Maybe that is your take, but NASCAR brags about its access then shows to be anything but these days.

    Back in the day, Richard Petty used to take fans around his shop in Level Cross. He was wonderful to fans and the media. At a previous paper, David Pearson could not have been nicer or less pretentious. He returned a call to our racing writer, and didn't think it a big deal at all.

    In stark contrast, Kevin Harvick declined to talk with one of our writers at the track after the interview was long scheduled. Worse, IIRC, one his PR sorts was the one to break the news. Yeah ... one example, I know. But highly indicative of the lack of evolvement with NASCAR and the media.
     
  6. playthrough

    playthrough Moderator Staff Member

    I think it was Moddy who told a story on another thread about how one time the NHRA reps busted ass to get news out to reporters about a driver's serious injury while NASCAR circled the wagons quickly in a similar incident. That speaks volumes and I don't think has a lot to do with one being a fringe sport and the other a major sport.
     
  7. imjustagirl

    imjustagirl Active Member

    The last time I asked, which was May, I got an answer not unlike the pornography one. "We'll know what we won't allow when we see it."

    I know you can't post video or do anything live from the property where they're racing. That's all exclusive to their partners. I know there's supposedly no live blogging, but I know several sites do lap by lap stuff.
     
  8. Judging from the news lately, it doesn't look like France persuaded many suits to keep their NASCAR beats staffed. At the last race I attended (not a major, but a popular stop not in Texas), I saw fewer and fewer of the national writers on hand. WaPo, NYT, many others are cutting back.

    It's partly expense, and partly because Jenna Fryer and Mike Harris do a pretty good job keeping everyone supplied. France should consider himself fortunate the papers still carve out the space for him each week.
     
  9. Editude

    Editude Active Member

    Each race, in most markets anyway, is a big deal in that market. Outside the market? Because the sport's focus seems to be on the season champion rather than collecting wins or even on positioning (since the points are basically reset for the Chase), the events seem to blend together. And, unlike tennis and golf, there are no majors in the popular definition outside of Daytona, so coverage doesn't expand for "bigger" races.
     
  10. John

    John Well-Known Member

    The only racing I've covered is the Southern Nationals a couple of times and the access was incredible. I spent about an hour talking to double-amputee Reggie Showers in his trailer, during which he took off his racing legs and put on his walking-around legs. A very weird scene.

    There were times when I basically had to tell the PR folks to leave me alone for a while so I could write.
     
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