Bravo to Jason Taylor

bigpern23 · Dec 30, 2006

Double Down said:

Here is the thing: I guarentee there are guys on Jason Taylor's own team -- his own defense in fact -- that are using steroids. Or HgH. And I bet Taylor could even tell you who they are. Taylor may be clean, and bravo if he is, but every player in the NFL knows that the league's roid problem goes a lot deeper than Shawne Merriman.

But again, we've reached the point where we're more interested in watching cartoon characters than human beings down on the football field. Take away roids and weed, and the NFL would look a lot different. And people would complain when half the team was on IR eight weeks into the season. So it's in everyone's best interests to keek quiet, I guess.
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So wait, you're saying you think steroids help keep people OFF injured reserve???

D-3 Fan · Dec 30, 2006

heyabbott said:

Fenian_Bastard said:

heyabbott said:

Fenian_Bastard said:

Boy oh boy, I hope Jason's glass house is squeaky clean.
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And if it is, if he's never used a substance for which he could be suspended, don't you think he's right?
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Maybe.
I'm not sure. Merriman got caught, paid the penalty. People should factor that in to their voting.
But Jason better not get caught doing anything untoward for the rest of his career because he's way out on a limb there.
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Merriman didn't volunartily pay the penalty, he didn't come forward, sans testing, to say "Hey, I fucked up. Just wanted to let you all know that before I was caught." Merriman did the least he could do, served the previously agreed upon sentence, and choose not to appeal the sentence at the most fortuitous time for his team.
As A Terp, I like Merriman. But he cheated. It's not like he got caught with some weed, which is excusable. He got caught cheating the game.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but there isn't a rule or stipulation anywhere in Merriman's contract or in the league labor rules about banning someone from receiving a league award for getting caught with a positive piss test. Secondly, the fans voted, end of story. Most fans don't give a shit most of the time about who's positive or not, which pretty much explains why we're such a "forgiving nation" when it comes to athletes and others who get busted.

Jason, why don't you ask your coach if he's going to stay or call in the Mayflower during the dead of night to move his shit to Tuscaloosa? Oh, by the way, enjoy golf season with your bro-in-law.

Fenian_Bastard · Dec 30, 2006

bigpern23 said:

Double Down said:

Here is the thing: I guarentee there are guys on Jason Taylor's own team -- his own defense in fact -- that are using steroids. Or HgH. And I bet Taylor could even tell you who they are. Taylor may be clean, and bravo if he is, but every player in the NFL knows that the league's roid problem goes a lot deeper than Shawne Merriman.

But again, we've reached the point where we're more interested in watching cartoon characters than human beings down on the football field. Take away roids and weed, and the NFL would look a lot different. And people would complain when half the team was on IR eight weeks into the season. So it's in everyone's best interests to keek quiet, I guess.
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So wait, you're saying you think steroids help keep people OFF injured reserve???
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In some ways, yes, they do. That's the whole lolgical basis for the "I have to do them to keep up with the guys who do" peer-pressure argument. And D3 reeled in the real truth -- any award that is fan-based is going to treat the steroid issue far more leniently than is a media-based award because, frankly, most fans don't care about it as much as the media does.

The Big Ragu · Dec 30, 2006

Fenian_Bastard said:

bigpern23 said:

Double Down said:

Here is the thing: I guarentee there are guys on Jason Taylor's own team -- his own defense in fact -- that are using steroids. Or HgH. And I bet Taylor could even tell you who they are. Taylor may be clean, and bravo if he is, but every player in the NFL knows that the league's roid problem goes a lot deeper than Shawne Merriman.

But again, we've reached the point where we're more interested in watching cartoon characters than human beings down on the football field. Take away roids and weed, and the NFL would look a lot different. And people would complain when half the team was on IR eight weeks into the season. So it's in everyone's best interests to keek quiet, I guess.
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So wait, you're saying you think steroids help keep people OFF injured reserve???
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In some ways, yes, they do. That's the whole lolgical basis for the "I have to do them to keep up with the guys who do" peer-pressure argument. And D3 reeled in the real truth -- any award that is fan-based is going to treat the steroid issue far more leniently than is a media-based award because, frankly, most fans don't care about it as much as the media does.
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When it comes to football, I think you're correct. When it comes to some other sports, I don't think that's true. I realize it's a double standard, but people long ago accepted the fact that performance-enahcing drugs are a part of football. I think, in part, this is because football has been the most evolutionary of the major sports. The game of the 30s looked nothing like the game of the 50s, which looked nothing like the game of the 70s, which doesn't quite look like the game of today. Football isn't weighted down by its history, traditions and records, so fans were more willing to accept the change of players turning themselves into superhuman freaks.

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