Boom to The Yankees : " Are You Effin Kiddin Me?"

Fenian_Bastard · Apr 21, 2008

Not likely, Ragu.
There's no Peter Angelos in the wings in NYC.
I think "seat resettlement counselor" is the best SportsJournalists.com phrase in a long while.

Armchair_QB · Apr 21, 2008

The Big Ragu said:

That is insane. And it finally might backfire. They have been upping the ante to get corporate buyers of those field level box seats for years, but that is taking it to a level where demand might not meet supply -- particularly in the face of a recession in which companies are cutting back on some things like this. They are counting on the initial excitement of a new stadium, but will that be enough? It typically buys you a few years of fans, but few people have that kind of money for a baseball game. What they have done the last few years is sell those seats for the prices Boom posted, and have very few leftovers from game to game. When they do have unfilled seats, though, they make them available at the last minute for twice the price the season ticket holders pay, and they always find someone willing to pay -- especially since most games are sellouts or near sellouts. So you get some poor shmuck who pays $250 or $300 a seat (for four seats) for a chance to sit on field level for once in his life. I personally don't think any regular season baseball game is worth that. Hell, I don't think postseason games should merit those kinds of prices. And eventually -- despite the wave of popularity the game is riding -- it HAS to have an effect as it alienates more and more of the regular Joe's who are the bread and butter of the fan base. Those corporate season ticket holders, who pass out tickets to employees and customers who really could care jack shit about baseball (and sit on their cell phones the whole game) just make the Stadium a worse place. During the 90s championship runs, I always enjoyed the Yankees fan base. It has gotten more and more quiet and has turned into a much more unknowledgable crowd in recent years. This is just going to bring the final hammer down. They essentially are shutting out the fans who can make the Stadium a special place. It may work for 2 or 3 or even 4 years--despite a bad economy--because of the excitement of a new stadium, but I really hope this shit backfires--and I like the Yankees--and a half decade down the line they get what they deserve: Camden Yards today.
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Dude, mix in a graph break.

Webster · Apr 21, 2008

My company thought about getting a box, so I looked at the paperwork. They actually lock you up for 3 years on the best tickets. That $10k a game commitment for 4 seats is actually about $2.5mm over three years. Having said that, people will pay at the top end -- there is so much corporate and individual cash in NYC.

I think that the harder part will be the tickets which are very good, say $75-$125 a game, which are now going to be $150-$300.

93Devil · Apr 21, 2008

Boom_70 said:

93Devil said:

I am heading up to the city in August, and a friend of mine has season tickets in the left field corner, third base side one row from the field.

Are your seats in the dugout?

From reading these links, I would trade down seats.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/bal-sp.schmuck23mar23,0,4127587.column
Amazing name for that writer.

http://www.newsday.com/sports/columnists/ny-spwally255625341mar25,0,6249093.column

http://www.ticketnews.com/Yankees-MLB-ticket-prices-continue-to-increase4849876
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Almost in the dugout - halfway between home plate and dugout - Agree on trade down aspect - grab good seats farther back and if you want to sit close just by on stub hub day of game from some poor slub who shelled out $480,000 for his seats and can't use them.
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Is there a waiting list for your current seat?

Maybe you can sell the seat on your own to a high bidder?

Like a company might pay you $50K just for the right to get your seats? You could just say that you would get 10 games a year in the contract.

Is that a possibility?

2muchcoffeeman · Apr 21, 2008

How do prices at Citi Field compare?

Armchair_QB said:

The Big Ragu said:

That is insane. And it finally might backfire. They have been upping the ante to get corporate buyers of those field level box seats for years, but that is taking it to a level where demand might not meet supply -- particularly in the face of a recession in which companies are cutting back on some things like this. They are counting on the initial excitement of a new stadium, but will that be enough? It typically buys you a few years of fans, but few people have that kind of money for a baseball game. What they have done the last few years is sell those seats for the prices Boom posted, and have very few leftovers from game to game. When they do have unfilled seats, though, they make them available at the last minute for twice the price the season ticket holders pay, and they always find someone willing to pay -- especially since most games are sellouts or near sellouts. So you get some poor shmuck who pays $250 or $300 a seat (for four seats) for a chance to sit on field level for once in his life. I personally don't think any regular season baseball game is worth that. Hell, I don't think postseason games should merit those kinds of prices. And eventually -- despite the wave of popularity the game is riding -- it HAS to have an effect as it alienates more and more of the regular Joe's who are the bread and butter of the fan base. Those corporate season ticket holders, who pass out tickets to employees and customers who really could care jack shit about baseball (and sit on their cell phones the whole game) just make the Stadium a worse place. During the 90s championship runs, I always enjoyed the Yankees fan base. It has gotten more and more quiet and has turned into a much more unknowledgable crowd in recent years. This is just going to bring the final hammer down. They essentially are shutting out the fans who can make the Stadium a special place. It may work for 2 or 3 or even 4 years--despite a bad economy--because of the excitement of a new stadium, but I really hope this shit backfires--and I like the Yankees--and a half decade down the line they get what they deserve: Camden Yards today.
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Dude, mix in a graph break.
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Dear Giant No-Meat Pasta Sauce Guy:

Boom_70 · Apr 21, 2008

The Big Ragu said:

That is insane. And it finally might backfire. They have been upping the ante to get corporate buyers of those field level box seats for years, but that is taking it to a level where demand might not meet supply -- particularly in the face of a recession in which companies are cutting back on some things like this. They are counting on the initial excitement of a new stadium, but will that be enough? It typically buys you a few years of fans, but few people have that kind of money for a baseball game. What they have done the last few years is sell those seats for the prices Boom posted, and have very few leftovers from game to game. When they do have unfilled seats, though, they make them available at the last minute for twice the price the season ticket holders pay, and they always find someone willing to pay -- especially since most games are sellouts or near sellouts. So you get some poor shmuck who pays $250 or $300 a seat (for four seats) for a chance to sit on field level for once in his life. I personally don't think any regular season baseball game is worth that. Hell, I don't think postseason games should merit those kinds of prices. And eventually -- despite the wave of popularity the game is riding -- it HAS to have an effect as it alienates more and more of the regular Joe's who are the bread and butter of the fan base. Those corporate season ticket holders, who pass out tickets to employees and customers who really could care jack shit about baseball (and sit on their cell phones the whole game) just make the Stadium a worse place. During the 90s championship runs, I always enjoyed the Yankees fan base. It has gotten more and more quiet and has turned into a much more unknowledgable crowd in recent years. This is just going to bring the final hammer down. They essentially are shutting out the fans who can make the Stadium a special place. It may work for 2 or 3 or even 4 years--despite a bad economy--because of the excitement of a new stadium, but I really hope this shit backfires--and I like the Yankees--and a half decade down the line they get what they deserve: Camden Yards today.
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Exactly - As another angle there are many clients who you can give 4 seats to as a thanks if they are valued at less than $100 .Try giving those same clients $6000 worth of seats and you put their jobs at risk for taking a bribe. You might also have to send them a 1099.

My sense is the Yankees are playing a cat and mouse game - try to sell as many seats a possible at big number then what does not sell lower price and modify offering.

Out of 81 home games a year I would say in past 10 years there would be maybe 10 "must' games a season that if you had to attend. That leaves 71 other games at $6000 per game - no thanks

poindexter · Dec 15, 2014

Yankee Stadium looks like a pleasure palace

jgmacg · Apr 21, 2008

BR is right about how prices erode the fan base. It's already happened at Rangers and Knicks games. Seated anywhere on the first couple of levels, you find yourself surrounded not so much by actual fans, but by ibankers or arbitrageurs or account executives on the second leg of an expense-account night that began at Keen's or Smith and Wollensky with a $2200 dinner, and will end much, much later on the sidewalk in front of Scores with a sloppy manhug by the open door of an idling cab sealing the promise of a new deal on just-in-time widget delivery for fiscal year 2009.

slappy4428 · Apr 21, 2008

Boomsie,
It would be cheaper for you to buy a ticket and travel to every away game -- sitting inthe same approximate seats -- than it would be at the "new" Yankee Stadium.
Your choice is clear: ROAD TRIP!

Boom_70 · Apr 21, 2008

jgmacg said:

BR is right about how prices erode the fan base. It's already happened at Rangers and Knicks games. Seated anywhere on the first couple of levels, you find yourself surrounded not so much by actual fans, but by ibankers or arbitrageurs or account executives on the second leg of an expense-account night that began at Keen's or Smith and Wollensky with a $2200 dinner, and will end much, much later on the sidewalk in front of Scores with a sloppy manhug by the open door of an idling cab sealing the promise of a new deal on just-in-time widget delivery for fiscal year 2009.
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Dam jg that made me laugh. One of the uglier sites in late night NYC - the investment banker "manhug" as the black lincoln town car waits to wisk Lyle home to leafy CT and Babs and the kiddies

93Devil · Apr 21, 2008

Boom, you could own PNC for $1500 a game.

poindexter · Apr 21, 2008

jgmacg said:

BR is right about how prices erode the fan base. It's already happened at Rangers and Knicks games. Seated anywhere on the first couple of levels, you find yourself surrounded not so much by actual fans, but by ibankers or arbitrageurs or account executives on the second leg of an expense-account night that began at Keen's or Smith and Wollensky with a $2200 dinner, and will end much, much later on the sidewalk in front of Scores with a sloppy manhug by the open door of an idling cab sealing the promise of a new deal on just-in-time widget delivery for fiscal year 2009.
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